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re: Most recently published LSU sports financials
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:36 pm to bigbonvi
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:36 pm to bigbonvi
This is why you should immediately dismiss anyone who says LSU shouldn't worry about basketball as an idiot. We have a terrible head coach with very little fan interest and yet it's the only other sport that draws a profit.
Also, we spend way too much money on Women's basketball. I want LSU to be good at all sports, but that's just ridiculous.
Also, we spend way too much money on Women's basketball. I want LSU to be good at all sports, but that's just ridiculous.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:37 pm to bigbonvi
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Kinda surprised me.
TV deals.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:47 pm to dovehunter
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Curley would have done the job for $1,000,000 vs. $10M and gotten the same results.
Curley won 16 games in 444 tries, 10 SEC games in 31 tries. BK won 16 games in 22 tries, 10 SEC games in 12 tries.
This is a pretty stupid take. LSU is not a program that needs a coach to be Hallman bad to move on anymore, and never should be again.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:52 pm to 304tiger
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I love LSU baseball. I didn't think it would make us a lot, but I never expected it to be a net loss...
Because we pay the staff a frick ton and the SEC TV deal doesn't make money like basketball. If you're just comparing ticket and concession sales then I'm sure baseball makes more than basketball. But basketball makes money just by existing in the SEC.
The question worth asking, is how much more would basketball make by being good (thru ticket sales) vs how much more would baseball lose by being bad?
Baseball needs asses in seats to make money. Basketball doesn't. At least that's my guess, someone correct me if I'm wrong
Posted on 12/13/25 at 5:59 pm to saint tiger225
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This is why you should immediately dismiss anyone who says LSU shouldn't worry about basketball as an idiot.
See i read the same thing but interpret it differently. I see that basketball gets paid just for being part of the SEC TV deal regardless of how good we are. Baseball needs to be good to come close to breaking even because they have to sell tickets to make money. Is there that much more potential for basketball to make more money if we're good? Idk, baseball plays a lot more home games. Genuinely curious bc idk how it all works
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:07 pm to Yeti_Chaser
College baseball just isn't a big draw nationally and it probably won't ever be. Despite it growing in popularity recently, it's mostly regional to the South/Southeast.
Baseball is still way short of breaking even with sellouts every home game. Basketball is still in profit with a nearly empty PMAC every game.
I love college baseball, love Jay Johnson and what he has going on at LSU. My argument isn't so much to take away from what he's doing, but we absolutely need to put more into basketball when we move on from McMahon. The fact women's basketball coaches are making more than the men's basketball coaches is just ridiculous. That's not to take away from Mulkey, but when you look at the numbers, it makes no sense.
Baseball is still way short of breaking even with sellouts every home game. Basketball is still in profit with a nearly empty PMAC every game.
I love college baseball, love Jay Johnson and what he has going on at LSU. My argument isn't so much to take away from what he's doing, but we absolutely need to put more into basketball when we move on from McMahon. The fact women's basketball coaches are making more than the men's basketball coaches is just ridiculous. That's not to take away from Mulkey, but when you look at the numbers, it makes no sense.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:13 pm to bigbonvi
Anyone who didnt guess mens basketball and also didnt know womens basketball is a major money drain shouldn’t be taken seriously.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:21 pm to mdomingue
Just a joke. Point was Football makes money. I don't give Kelly credit for making us money.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:26 pm to saint tiger225
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College baseball just isn't a big draw nationally and it probably won't ever be. Despite it growing in popularity recently, it's mostly regional to the South/Southeast.
Baseball is still way short of breaking even with sellouts every home game. Basketball is still in profit with a nearly empty PMAC every game.
I understand that, but when looking at the athletic dept as a whole $1 is $1 regardless of where it comes from.
So I'm saying if we took the baseball money and gave it to basketball and suddenly LSU baseball sucked then maybe we lose $5M per year instead of losing $2M on baseball. I see that basketball makes $1M even when we suck. But if basketball starts selling out the PMAC (only ~18 home games per year), would they make enough to offset the additional $3M we're now losing on baseball? Idk. I think theres a chance that your $ goes further with baseball because of what you just said about national interest. It means we get the money from basketball whether we suck or not. But baseball could lose big if we suck. But I agree 1000% we should start by cutting WBB.
On another note how did football double their revenue from 2023 to 2024?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:26 pm to dovehunter
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I don't give Kelly credit for making us money.
I'm with you here. We definitely need a sarcasm font, though
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:28 pm to BrianKellysbuyout
I have a daughter and 3 granddaughters. Why should we subsidize them? It's akin to Affirmative action and DEI. Plus they don't need subsidies as they gave talents all their own. It cheapens every group that gets the subsidies. I'd hate to think I got preference for something I had no control over. It detracts from the value in the long term.. Merit Matters.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:29 pm to mdomingue
Agree. Like the price of hotel rooms and JellO shots in Omaha.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:36 pm to BrianKellysbuyout
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Do you have daughters?
nah, he is gay.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:44 pm to 304tiger
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I love LSU baseball. I didn't think it would make us a lot, but I never expected it to be a net loss...
No money to be made there.
Outside of the south and some of the west coast no one gives a rat’s arse about college baseball and it’s a shite product outside of about 25 programs.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:54 pm to Fat Bastard
Women don't need subsidies. Women's sports drives up the cost of men's sports and the people who "love" women's sports don't want to pay for them.. It's public policy so it is what it is. The question is at what cost is it equitable and sustainable?
Posted on 12/13/25 at 6:57 pm to Yeti_Chaser
That's a weird way to look at it and not to be an arse, but your hypothetical situation doesn't really make sense and is wrong.
To put it another way, LSU baseball is maxed out on the money they can make and yet still lose money. Meanwhile, basketball is barely scratching the surface on the money they can make and are still profitable.
To put it another way, LSU baseball is maxed out on the money they can make and yet still lose money. Meanwhile, basketball is barely scratching the surface on the money they can make and are still profitable.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 7:04 pm to bigbonvi
The most outrageous thing on here is we are spending over $2,000,000 a year on the band and we are still piping in music.
Posted on 12/13/25 at 7:09 pm to saint tiger225
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That's a weird way to look at it
Why? The athletic dept is one business. Each sport isn't really separate. If basketball makes $1M and baseball loses $2M then LSU loses $1M. If basketball makes $2M and baseball loses $3M then the net effect on LSU is the same: -$1M.
Yes, baseball is maxed out. But baseball can also lose a lot more money if we don't sell tickets bc they don't get much TV revenue. Does basketball get a larger share of the TV revenue if they are good? Idk the answer to that. Do you?
The PMAC capacity is 13k. The Box is 10k but baseball plays twice as many home games before even getting to the post season. If we're just looking at ticket/parking/concession sales I have to think baseball will always make more if both teams are equally successful. So the question is how much more TV money does basketball get if they're good vs bad? Bc that's the difference maker
Posted on 12/13/25 at 7:09 pm to savecf101
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why Track and Field is so damn expensive
Some meets are multi-day, and even then, they send some teams in groups and return separately. You are also traveling at least 30 athletes on both sides. So 60 minimum athletes competing at away meets. Housing 10 staff (coaches/trainers/admin) and hauling equipment (poles/implements) while flying commercial every time except for maybe the national meet in Oregon, where they stay for at least a full week. Even the conference meets are close to a week long for travel.
Roster sizes are 35 men/45 women max, and all scholarships are full. LSU doesnt have a full roster on both sides and does NOT have full scholarships. Top talent in state is not coming because we have no NIL for track, so we have to go and get visas for international athletes (costs way more) and pay those scholarships out. There are plenty of walk ons and most compete at home meets which help bring the program money. Not having a banked indoor track is why we travel more during indoor, but i am hearing we are getting one with some private boosters. TBD. If so, that will generate revenue and cancel out a ton of our losses so we can host at least 2 more indoor meets vs. the current 2 we have featuring mostly instate/driving distance programs for just one afternoon.
Add up all of that, T&F is actually pretty efficient with its money.
Now look at WBB and tell me why they need a staff member for every person on the roster, travel to Greece/BVI for a cupcake game, have a coach who makes more than the staffs of almost 75% of the teams on campus, have a media rights deal with ESPN, and they don't get looked at further under a microscope.
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