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More Kiner & Goodwin and less TDP..

Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:11 am
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9591 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:11 am
The freshman are more elusive, and can avoid the penetration the OL is consistently allowing.

CEH was a master at making guys miss in the backfield and getting positive yardage. He and Burrow helped the OL win the top OL award in 2019 which turned out to be an illusion.

TDP needs room to get up a head of steam and our OL isn’t giving it to him; and with Emery now done, we need guys back there with the agility to make guys miss.
Posted by MightyYat
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2009
24389 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:12 am to
It was so noticeably different when 21 & 22 had the ball. I really hope we see the more moving forward.
Posted by Bottom9
Arsenal Til I Die
Member since Jul 2010
21738 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:14 am to
Man what has happened to my guy TDP.

Gave us great reps in 2019. I mean of course Burrow and Brady but he looks slow as shite
Posted by GeauxFightingTigers1
Member since Oct 2016
12574 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:16 am to
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Man what has happened to my guy TDP. Gave us great reps in 2019. I mean of course Burrow and Brady but he looks slow as shite


Limited giggle and lateral movement. Straight ahead guy.
Posted by TankBoys32
Member since Mar 2019
2799 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:20 am to
I might be making a bad comparison but Kiner reminded me of sophomore year Guice on that touchdown run. Elusive but with some power.
Posted by Captain Crown
Member since Jun 2011
50767 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:21 am to
I see that Goodwin is in a walking boot
Posted by LaTexSaint
Member since Jul 2013
1023 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:22 am to
TDP runs better when QB is under center. Our running plays are very vanilla.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
57676 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:23 am to
quote:

More Kiner & Goodwin and less TDP..


Goodwin broke one off for a big gain, then came up really gimpy.
Posted by Blutarsky
112th Congress
Member since Jan 2004
9591 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:28 am to
Yeah. Goodwin has been banged up all camp.

I’d sit him until SEC play and roll with Kiner with TDP/Williams/Bradford behind him for now.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
28337 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:28 am to
quote:

Man what has happened to my guy TDP.

Gave us great reps in 2019. I mean of course Burrow and Brady but he looks slow as shite


He has very little burst. No lateral quickness and really doesn't break tackles all that well for a purported "power back". People remember his TD run vs. Florida, but a big part of that was LSU went quickly and had Florida out of position at the snap. TDP literally took the handoff and ran straight through the big hole it created on the right side. There wasn't much vision needed on the run.

He's basically a Kenny Hilliard type of runner who would have faired better in Les's system of getting the ball running downhill towards a hole. He's just not a fit for what LSU wants to do where he is taking the handoff almost from a standstill moving sideways. CEH excelled because he had the lateral quickness and vision to play in space. TDP doesn't. That doesn't make him a bad player. Just a bad fit for this offense which needs its RB to play in space with quick burst ability.

Goodwin showed the speed to bounce outside if need be and Kiner showed some ability to make quick cuts and accelerate up field. LSU can still play TDP, but I think it is time to start getting the freshman more and more snaps.
Posted by Wrucker16
Member since Jul 2014
3130 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:31 am to
Just wish we could hurry up and get Emery cleared.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:38 am to
quote:

Limited giggle and lateral movement. Straight ahead guy.


IMO TDP needs to be already going downhill when given the ball. His skills are not conducive to being given the ball at a dead stop.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278332 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:44 am to
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It was so noticeably different when 21 & 22 had the ball.



I mean, all 3 had one nice run apiece and not much else.

Just so happens those 3 runs were on the best blocked runs of the night. Blocking improves, they all improve.
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
37491 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:47 am to
quote:

I see that Goodwin is in a walking boot


Damn it! Why can’t we have nice things?
Posted by Gulf Coast Tiger
Ms Gulf Coast
Member since Jan 2004
18662 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:50 am to
It seems this team is cursed
Posted by Htowntiger90
Houston
Member since Dec 2018
939 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 11:53 am to
Goodwin looked great on his first carry. Man it sucked to see him get his ankle rolled on. Hope he can get healthy in the next few weeks.
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
810 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:16 pm to
More healthy OL starters would be better. We still don't know what Emery will look like in this offense. Till then too early to name them ahead of TDP and Emery.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66465 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:22 pm to
quote:

TDP runs better when QB is under center.


What is that statement based on?

How many under center plays has LSU run with TDP since 2019?
This post was edited on 9/13/21 at 12:23 pm
Posted by ImayGoLesMiles
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Feb 2015
12709 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:26 pm to
Tdp and emery have had plenty of time to separate themselves and havent. Its time to let others get opportunities in big games. We need to play the best players no matter their class. That goes for every position, especially on the dl. Maason smith and roy should get the start next week too.
Posted by SteveLSU35
Shreveport
Member since Mar 2004
13952 posts
Posted on 9/13/21 at 12:33 pm to
TDP can play and have a huge roll, but he can’t get hit or have to change direction early. If he can’t get down hill he can make cuts and make plays. He has to get 2yards into the defense to be effective.
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