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re: Miles unethical negotiation at LSU

Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:37 pm to
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
31949 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:37 pm to
Lol... One upvote he gives himself and 62 downvotes...

That's so bad that old boy should have gave himself a downvote
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:39 pm to
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Miles gets the Kansas job which is being reported as likely, What he did to LSU in his negotiations is highly unethical. If he knew he had the Kansas job locked, he just knowingly screwed LSU out of another $1.5 Mil.




Wow.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:40 pm to
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Actually you are leaving out further contractual obligations-namely this liability has limits and is negated if he receives another job that he apparently wants and must seek and pays him more than the 6.5Mil. over its life


That is conditional on him taking a job. However, what it does not say is how much that school most pay. It only says if Les Gets a contract more than $6.5 million and that school agrees to pay the full $6.5. million. So the only way LSU was not going to pay the $6.5 million is if a A) A school offered Les a Job, B) He took it and C) in the contract, the other school agreed to pay all of the contract worth $6.5 million or more.
Posted by Tiger on the Rag
Cattle Gap Egypt
Member since Jan 2018
7629 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

If Miles gets the Kansas job which is being reported as likely, What he did to LSU in his negotiations is highly unethical. If he knew he had the Kansas job locked, he just knowingly screwed LSU out of another $1.5 Mil.


or

He could have hung around and collected the whole amount. Both sides win. Not Unethical
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:42 pm to
Your way of thinking is warped. Rest your brain. It needs it.
Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1514 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:42 pm to
This is fun !!
Posted by Philzilla2k
Member since Oct 2017
12402 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:44 pm to
quote:

If Miles gets the Kansas job which is being reported as likely, What he did to LSU in his negotiations is highly unethical. If he knew he had the Kansas job locked, he just knowingly screwed LSU out of another $1.5 Mil.

Bet that didn’t go how you expected, lol
Posted by lawtill
San Antonio
Member since Oct 2018
122 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:45 pm to
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Dumbass.


+1000
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:47 pm to
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Les Miles was going to Kansas NO MATTER WHAT. Les Miles was HIGHLY LIKELY to make more than $6.5mm through the LSU buy out period. LSU has a gain of $5mm...they could of had a gain of $6.5mm. Les Miles worked LSU one last time and I'm happy for him. He didn't deserve what happened to him.


MissiePig:

I like Les as well, always did and still do. We don't know what KU was going to pay as long as LSU owed Miles $6.5. That was always a potential contract impediment. In other words, the mere fact of LSU owing $6.5 million introduced some element of uncertainty into the negotiations. KU offers a contract worth some amount, then how much does KU pay vs. how much can they leverage from LSU. That could be a stickler. You don't think LSU's attorneys would want to look at the KU contract terms.

The fact that Les settled with LSU allows for "efficient contracting" between Les and KU. It eliminates LSU, a third party with economic interest as long as they still owed Les any money.

Win for Les, win for LSU and also KU. What if LSU did not like the terms of Les contract with KU and filed a motion in court. More damn legal fees. Didn't LSU just go through a contract dispute over who owed what when Chavis signed with Texas A&M. My theory, and that is all it is, LSU's attorneys were privy with Les and his negotiations with KU.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1147 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:56 pm to
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We don't know what KU was going to pay


I'm agreeing with EVERYTHING your saying, and this point is the X factor that we most likely will never know. I make a series of assumptions that leads to LSU saving $6.5mm. You're assumptions lead you to LSU saving $5mm.

Also one caviat, LSU, from an accounting perspective, isn't technically "gaining" $5mm. The ST/LT liability is going to net with the deferred asset. I'm not actually a gov't accounting expert so someone feel free to correct me.
This post was edited on 11/16/18 at 4:01 pm
Posted by A Menace to Sobriety
Member since Jun 2018
32005 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:56 pm to
300th downvote.
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24641 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 3:58 pm to
Admins need to delete this.
Posted by MisslePig
Member since Jul 2018
1147 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:00 pm to
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Admins need to delete this.


Dude, it's Friday 5pm est/4pm cst...let us have this...we're almost there. No one's bumping this in an hour. TGIF.
Posted by SpookeyTiger
Williamsburg, MO
Member since Jan 2012
3607 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:02 pm to
It is called a negotiated settlement for a reason. Nothing unethical about it.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4189 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
MissiePig
quote:

Also one caviat, LSU, from an accounting perspective, isn't technically "gaining" $5mm. The ST/LT liability is going to net with the deferred asset. I'm not actually a gov't accounting expert so someone feel free to correct me.


Government Accounting has its own principles True. My example earlier was using a Publicly traded company as an example. And yes, if a publicly traded company retires long-term debt/liabilities and lower than the book value of that debt, it is recorded as a Gain on the Income statement.

Deferred assets (or liabilities) typically result from differences in tax accounting and book accounting, so not sure what exactly you are getting at here.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
43814 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
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Miles unethical negotiation at LSU
If Miles gets the Kansas job which is being reported as likely, What he did to LSU in his negotiations is highly unethical. If he knew he had the Kansas job locked, he just knowingly screwed LSU out of another $1.5 Mil.






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kew48





Posted by kew48
Covington Louisiana
Member since Sep 2006
1514 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:04 pm to
I like Les as well, always did and still do. We don't know what KU was going to pay as long as LSU owed Miles $6.5. That was always a potential contract impediment. In other words, the mere fact of LSU owing $6.5 million introduced some element of uncertainty into the negotiations. KU offers a contract worth some amount, then how much does KU pay vs. how much can they leverage from LSU. That could be a stickler. You don't think LSU's attorneys would want to look at the KU contract terms.


Well so much for a buyout clause in future contracts for Coaches that include terms limiting the buyout for the coach that gets hired down the road. According to the logic above they don't effectively work and even limit a coach from negotiating a new deal based on market conditions.
Posted by Ice Cold
Over Macho Grande
Member since Jun 2004
18853 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:05 pm to
Not sure if anyone has brought this up in response to your hot take, but Miles did not act unethically and your post is terrible.

If you had any self-awareness you would edit your post to delete the subject and body, ask an admin to delete your thread, and throw yourself on the mercy of the Rant.
Posted by Steve Janowski
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Mar 2018
659 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:15 pm to
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Prove to me LSU needed to settle with Les Miles.

220k a month over the next 6 years........
Jesus I thought the math in Louisiana was bad but Arkansas makes this shite down here look like Honors Abstract Algebra. Holy shite get with it son!
Posted by TigersFan64
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2014
4755 posts
Posted on 11/16/18 at 4:21 pm to
Just another moronic CLM hater.
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