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re: Miles on the illegal formation call
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:27 pm to bayoubengalfan4life
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:27 pm to bayoubengalfan4life
[quote]Sec officiating is horrible this year[/quote)SEC officiating is the worst in every sport and worst than any other conference..... 
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:35 pm to Mulerider
Yes, this is a good point. The interior lineman or all a little bit behind the center.
And tackles are always a little bit inside of that.
Look at our RT and Dural. They're in the same place.
And tackles are always a little bit inside of that.
Look at our RT and Dural. They're in the same place.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:36 pm to White Tiger
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:46 pm to ApexTiger
Your question should be could you imagine Ritter's crew making that call against Alabama.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 8:51 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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And if you go back to the the ALA game last year the Fat Guy play was illegal because the refs signaled the outside WR as being on the LOS, covering up the TE/Tackle eligible receiver.
That was a legal formation. The tackle split out wide didn't run past the LOS. Now they weren't set so that should have been a penalty.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:03 pm to The Boat
He's saying the TE that caught the pass was on the line and was covered by another receiver on the line outside of him, making him ineligible.
I've blocked the game from memory so I can't comment on whether or not he is correct, but he isn't talking about the lineman.
I've blocked the game from memory so I can't comment on whether or not he is correct, but he isn't talking about the lineman.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:06 pm to MOT
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He's saying the TE that caught the pass was on the line and was covered by another receiver on the line outside of him, making him ineligible.
Still no then because the two receivers split out on that side were behind the line. People falsely remember so much stuff about certain games and that's how annoying things like this start. The play was legal (except for them not being set). It was a beautiful play and it sucks they used it against LSU.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:11 pm to gizmoflak
Downvote all you want guys Dural was off and Dupre made sure he was off. That's where the issue lies. Yes Dupre confirmed he was off with the ref, and he was, but you must have 7 on the line. We only had 6
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:18 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
I heard Dural said in an interview that he also checked with the official and was good.
somebody fugged up
somebody fugged up
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:43 pm to White Tiger
Dat point spread tho
Posted on 9/27/15 at 9:50 pm to White Tiger
Maybe Miles should make an effort to not have one of the most penalized teams in the conference every single year, and we wouldn't have to bitch about the refs? 
Posted on 9/27/15 at 10:49 pm to The Boat
If it had not nullified LF7's GOAT run into history, I would not care as much.
The Boat
How many times has our most senior receiver lined up illegally and been flagged?
No one can legally literally line up on the actual LOS, so they are all 1-1.5 yds back to avoid a neutral zone infraction.
The waist of the Center and the position of the outside interior Lineman are both used to determine who is "on the offensive LOS" and who is a slot receiver or back.
Legal "but should have been a penalty"...fully agree. HUNH, much less trick plays, are too fast for the refs to assess in real time. After the unreviewed Christian Jones trapped pass that set up the tying FG, ALA ran to the line and spiked the ball before the line was set.
No need to be annoyed because you too remember it should have been flagged. LINK read the comments.
I was not referring to Cam Robinson, the decoy 6th WR on the right side, but the other side of the unbalanced line where Brandon Greene was lined up as a TE/Tackle eligible receiver. The ref signaled the spread ALA WR as being on the LOS, technically rendering Greene ineligible. Now at least one ref did not know it was a HUNH trick play and overlooked that the players were not all set before the back shifted.
The Boat
quote:Explain your reasoning on this assessment.
Dural needs to be further up.
How many times has our most senior receiver lined up illegally and been flagged?
No one can legally literally line up on the actual LOS, so they are all 1-1.5 yds back to avoid a neutral zone infraction.
The waist of the Center and the position of the outside interior Lineman are both used to determine who is "on the offensive LOS" and who is a slot receiver or back.
quote:
That was a legal formation. The tackle split out wide didn't run past the LOS. Now they weren't set so that should have been a penalty.
Legal "but should have been a penalty"...fully agree. HUNH, much less trick plays, are too fast for the refs to assess in real time. After the unreviewed Christian Jones trapped pass that set up the tying FG, ALA ran to the line and spiked the ball before the line was set.
quote:Once again you agree it was illegal. I agree it was a beautiful, illegal play: '6 WR's', HUNH, sideline-to-sideline spread, empty backfield, shotgun..the works.
People falsely remember so much stuff about certain games and that's how annoying things like this start. The play was legal (except for them not being set). It was a beautiful play and it sucks they used it against LSU.
No need to be annoyed because you too remember it should have been flagged. LINK read the comments.
I was not referring to Cam Robinson, the decoy 6th WR on the right side, but the other side of the unbalanced line where Brandon Greene was lined up as a TE/Tackle eligible receiver. The ref signaled the spread ALA WR as being on the LOS, technically rendering Greene ineligible. Now at least one ref did not know it was a HUNH trick play and overlooked that the players were not all set before the back shifted.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:00 pm to ps101
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I can assure you that if Ritter is a ref for LSU/Alabama there will be a number of calls go against LSU.
The bad thing about this whole Tom Ritter ordeal is should CLM send a inquiry to the SEC office, he will get the same result as someone reporting a cop to the police chief for citing him for something he didn't do. Good ole bama boys in that SEC office, so you know how that goes.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:02 pm to Quid Pro Quo
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The ref signaled the spread ALA WR as being on the LOS
No he didn't. He extended his arm signaling the receiver was off the line of scrimmage.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:07 pm to The Boat
The ball was set at the 13 yard line. The receive closest to the sideline front foot was at the 11.5 yard line. The slot receiver front foot was at the 11 yard line. Thats an illegal
Formation(5men in the backfield). Simple as that. If you watch the video, the opposite side ref literally leans over to look down the LOS, then throws the flag.
It's a stupid mistake to make. The wide receivers have clear views of the ball. A wide receiver should never line up wrong nor should be ever jump for that very reason.
Formation(5men in the backfield). Simple as that. If you watch the video, the opposite side ref literally leans over to look down the LOS, then throws the flag.
It's a stupid mistake to make. The wide receivers have clear views of the ball. A wide receiver should never line up wrong nor should be ever jump for that very reason.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 11:51 pm to dgnx6
It was not an illegal formation..for those of you who thinks the offense line's up "on the ball" or even with the ball, your wrong...the whole offense is "behind" the ball before the snap..number one recievers left foot is even with the right tackles right foot ..number one receiver was ON the line, number two wr was off.. if number one was off(in which he wasn't) then the whole oline was off Lololol..head linesman fricked that call ...players know it, miles knows it
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Posted on 9/28/15 at 1:00 am to BlackHelicopterPilot
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Flag was thrown at the snap. In the beginning of the vid, you see Dupre looking toward the ref and motioning. But, Dural is not. No idea if he had prior to the beginning of this part of the vid
they both looked like they were where they had to be. that black line provided by ESPN doesn't necessarily mean the LOS, it's ball.
the infuriating thing, and the thing that makes you want to scream is after Dupre moves back as the ref motions to him, he puts his hand ON HIS FLAG and as soon as the ball is snapped he throws it...wtf?!
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:02 am to Nuts4LSU
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It would not surprise me one bit if the refs told them they were OK and then threw the flag on them. SEC refs in general, and particularly Ritter's crew, are just flat out criminals.
They aren't asking for approval. They aren't asking if they are lined up correctly.
Dupre would have been letting the ref know "I'm off" and that's it. The ref probably thought "yeah I see that. Both of you guys are off"
Receivers get out there and tell the ref "I'm on" or "I'm off"
The ref will then adjust the player IF he feels they are in error based on where they THINK they are lined up. But DUPRE knew he was off, told the ref, and there was no discussion needed because he was right. He was off
Posted on 9/28/15 at 5:13 am to vjp819
quote:...maybe it should go to the ncaa.
The bad thing about this whole Tom Ritter ordeal is should CLM send a inquiry to the SEC office, he will get the same result as someone reporting a cop to the police chief for citing him for something he didn't do. Good ole bama boys in that SEC office, so you know how that goes.
Posted on 9/28/15 at 8:04 am to TickledTiger
so much butthurt in this thread over a correct call
I'm a big LSU homer, but even with my P&G glasses on I can still see 5 in the backfield
I'm a big LSU homer, but even with my P&G glasses on I can still see 5 in the backfield
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