re: Miles on the illegal formation call

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And WTF is the ref on the opposite side making that call!

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The tight end on the far side is in the backfield as well. Add the slot receiver, fullback, tailback, and QB and you have 5. The WR doesn't count but it doesn't help that he is back a bit from the line as well.

Replay shows Dupre checking and moving into his position. Dural was off the line

The only thing I could see, if I'm giving the benefit of the doubt, the official that threw the flag fought that the TE on his side was in the backfield. Otherwise it looks like a legal formation to me!

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Dural needs to be further up.

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Re-watching the game Dural seems to have done this often w/o penalty. I'm sure coach Ball will work on this and make it a strong point this week.

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by mikeytig
Wow-seems like the SEC officials really had it out for us. Some of the holding calls as were very questionable.

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The illegal formation call was wrong from the standpoint it wasn't enforced regularly. Dural was not on the line several times w/o penalty.

LSU committed those 14 penalties. My rant against the officiating is in the 4 called on Cuse. They got away with late hits, personal fouls and big time holding (not just the kind every OL does).

The game has to be officiated equally. I'm not saying both teams must have equal penalties, I'm saying it has to be officiated with equal scrutiny.

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Dural needs to be further up

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You do realize that he can't see that black line that you are looking at. Right?

Not sure if it has been mentioned yet, but if the end man is off the line of scrimmage, the official on that side is supposed to hold his arm straight out to signal to the official on the other side and the players that the receiver is not on the ball. It is impossible to tell from that replay if the official near Dural was holding his arm out.

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You do realize that he can't see that black line that you are looking at. Right?

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Lol what bro. Are the hashes not on the field either?

It had nothing to do with the tight end. It is clear one of the WRs is supposed to be on the line (Dural most likely for several reasons already mentioned), and as another poster already pointed out after Miles got the explanation from the official you can clearly read his words into the headset "both receivers were off the ball".

This is total Ritter BS. If you nitpick to that level 100% of plays are done without meeting the exact requirements, the LOS is a V or wedge tapering away from the center. The neutral zone is the width of the football and it is at least a yard to the waist of the center, so the gray area is ~1.5 yds.

At the snap, an offense has to have seven players on the line of scrimmage. Out of those seven, only the two closest to the sidelines are eligible to catch a pass. The five in between them are not.

Rule Book PDF:

Lineman and Back
ARTICLE 4. a. Lineman.
1. A lineman is any Team A player legally on his scrimmage line (Rule 2-21-2).
2. A Team A player is on his scrimmage line when he faces his opponent’s goal line
with the line of his shoulders approximately parallel thereto and either (a) he is the
snapper (Rule 2-27-8) or (b) his head breaks the plane of the line drawn through the
waistline of the snapper.
b. Interior lineman. An interior lineman is a lineman who is not on the end of his
scrimmage line.
c. Restricted lineman. A restricted lineman is any interior lineman, or any lineman wearing
a number 50-79, whose hand(s) are below the knees.
d. Back.
1. A back is any Team A player who is not a lineman and whose head or shoulder does
not break the plane of the line drawn through the waistline of the nearest Team A
lineman.

So from 2-27-4-a-2 and 4-d-1 both the waistline of the center and the nearest interior lineman are used to determine who is on the LOS and who is a back. Dural and Dupre are clear on both standards.

Dural meets both the requirements for being on the LOS and for not being a "Back". Dupre made the adjustment to meet both requirements for being a back.

In HUNH the refs do not have time to nitpick. And if you go back to the the ALA game last year the Fat Guy play was illegal because the refs signaled the outside WR as being on the LOS, covering up the TE/Tackle eligible receiver.