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Miles on the illegal formation call
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:26 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:26 pm
The officiating crew, which was from the SEC, ruled that LSU was in an illegal formation, because it didn't have enough players on the line of scrimmage. Miles said both of his receivers, Dupre and Travin Dural, checked with an official just before the ball was snapped to see if they were aligned correctly.
"My responsibility on the play is to step off the line," Dupre said. "I looked at the official and he nodded. I looked at Travin and I saw with my own eyes he was on the line where he was supposed to be.
Nola.com
"My responsibility on the play is to step off the line," Dupre said. "I looked at the official and he nodded. I looked at Travin and I saw with my own eyes he was on the line where he was supposed to be.
Nola.com
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Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:28 pm to White Tiger
quote:
he officiating crew, which was from the SEC, ruled that LSU was in an illegal formation, because it didn't have enough players on the line of scrimmage. Miles said both of his receivers, Dupre and Travin Dural, checked with an official just before the ball was snapped to see if they were aligned correctly.
"My responsibility on the play is to step off the line," Dupre said. "I looked at the official and he nodded. I looked at Travin and I saw with my own eyes he was on the line where he was supposed to be.
Nola.com
if this is the case, the officials should have discussed and lifted the flag
Why didn't that happen?
Can you imagine if this was why we lost another game to Alabama?
massive suicide watch
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:31 pm to White Tiger
I think the receivers reported as much to Miles after the play. He was adamant yesterday about reviewing the call. I know every school sends in a report to the conference office after a game. This is likely to get a strong mention.
Thing is, if the SEC is consistent with past positions on these types of things they will defend the official regardless of all else.
Thing is, if the SEC is consistent with past positions on these types of things they will defend the official regardless of all else.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:32 pm to ApexTiger
I can assure you that if Ritter is a ref for LSU/Alabama there will be a number of calls go against LSU.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:33 pm to ps101
If Ritter is the ref for any LSU game from here on LSU shouldn't leave the locker room.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:33 pm to ApexTiger
What SEC refs lack in intelligence they make up for with bad judgment.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:34 pm to ps101
our refs suck, its an embarrassment.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:35 pm to ApexTiger
These calls are very curious to me. Would be nice to see when the flag fell. Should have been at the snap of the ball.
Should also be clearly evident from inspection of the TV video.
Should also be clearly evident from inspection of the TV video.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:39 pm to White Tiger
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These calls are very curious to me. Would be nice to see when the flag fell. Should have been at the snap of the ball.
Should also be clearly evident from inspection of the TV video.
see for yourself
Flag was thrown at the snap. In the beginning of the vid, you see Dupre looking toward the ref and motioning. But, Dural is not. No idea if he had prior to the beginning of this part of the vid
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:44 pm to White Tiger
it was clearly an illegal formation
nothing to see here
nothing to see here
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:46 pm to White Tiger
quote:
Would be nice to see when the flag fell. Should have been at the snap of the ball.
Ref was in the process of throwing the flag before Fournette was even given the ball.
LSU Illegal Formation
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:50 pm to tigers102886
Notice how there is no lead up to that point in time. No way to verify if Dural signaled on not.
Time to move on.
Time to move on.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 4:55 pm to LSUSUPERSTAR
It was the right call. Duran was off the line.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:07 pm to White Tiger
Correct call was made
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:08 pm to gizmoflak
quote:
it was clearly an illegal formation
nothing to see here
Clearly? What was he, 6" behind the right tackle, maybe. Ticky tack call.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:18 pm to gizmoflak
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nothing to see here
Yep. Unless someone has earlier video showing Dural checking and getting an all clear signal the call was right on as Dural lined up on wrong yardage marker (guess he was just looking at it wrong from his angle, which is a good reason to check with the ref who has the down the line view).
But still, the funny thing to me is that the penalty was called by the ref on the opposite side of the field (and yes, he already put his hand on his flag before the play even started). Why is the opposite side ref calling the penalty when there is a ref on the side where it happened? Seems like they would defer to one another, or at least consult. We really need to see video of Dural coming out of the huddle to the time shown on this video to see if he did actually check his alignment with the ref on his side.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:20 pm to White Tiger
Let's say "in addition to" all the mentions here, one problem with Ritter's crews (or just Ritter?) is they call some ticky tack stuff.
Don't forget, Syracuse got an illegal formation call on what would have been their first first-down. For the life of me I couldn't find that one either.
And then there's the hit out of bounds by Debo, where one foot of the QB was inbounds, the other foot was ON ITS WAY out, and the motion initiated, on a QB scramble for an attempt to cross the LoS no less, before the QB was out.
Don't forget, Syracuse got an illegal formation call on what would have been their first first-down. For the life of me I couldn't find that one either.
And then there's the hit out of bounds by Debo, where one foot of the QB was inbounds, the other foot was ON ITS WAY out, and the motion initiated, on a QB scramble for an attempt to cross the LoS no less, before the QB was out.
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:31 pm to BlackHelicopterPilot
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see for yourself
That replay is not complete. I was working during the game and listened on radio so I watched it later Sat night on DVR. The announcers were talking about something unrelated and the camera feed switched to the play and LSU was on the LOS like the video on the Deadspin link but it is about two seconds short. As soon as the video feed switches to the play Dural is looking at the Side judge with his arm extended. Approx one - two seconds later is when Dupree adjusted his alignment. I had to view the play on reverse slo-mo to see Dural's check with officials - it is there.
I did see in the link you provided that the official on the opposite sideline is the one that threw the flag... literally 50 yds away.
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 5:32 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:32 pm to gizmoflak
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it was clearly an illegal formation nothing to see here
recievers are usually given more latitude than that. It is a very arbitrary call. Generally that far off, a flag is not thrown against a WR who is that spread from the ball.
so there is indeed the opposite of "nothing to see here"
This post was edited on 9/27/15 at 5:34 pm
Posted on 9/27/15 at 5:35 pm to gizmoflak
quote:
was clearly an illegal formation
nothing to see here
after watching I agree it was clearly an illegal formation, But either call it every time, or never call it. Refs shouldn't be able to pick and choose when they throw the flag.
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