re: Matt mctrash defenders

What LSU sports you support and dont support?

I was watching back LSU basketball videos from last season, and I have to roundly disagree with anyone who says LSU is improved this year. They're not-- in fact this year's team has much more in common with the rag-tag group from two years ago than last year's team, who were competitive in conference play.

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He went 9-9 last year in conference play last season. 7th in the conference and a long way from 2-14 and last place the previous season.

No matter what you say that was encouraging.

We started off bad this year, but let it play out before you condemn the man.

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That's all fair. The jury is still out for me, but I want CMM to succeed.

Let's do this. Everyone right now is queer for Bruce Pearl. So let's compare - He took over a situation just as bad as CMM did and if you don't agree you didn't do your research - and with fan apathy for hoops worse than what CMM inherited. They just flat out did not GAF about basketball at Auburn.

He went won 9 SEC games his first two years at Auburn. He won 7 SEC games his third year that were forfeited for cheating which back before NIL was as customary for Auburn in every sport as breathing....so hiring Pearl was not a surprise.

CMM is in his third year, and his first two were better than Pearl's.

Now CMM does not have the larger than life personality and charisma of Pearl, so matching Pearl from his third year to where he is now seems a tall order, but NIL brings a new landscape and he's actually recruited surprisingly well, but eventually we will need results.

And he won't get 7 years like Dale did - landscape is much different now, and it looks unlikely this year will be his breakout - so I do think next year will be very important for him.

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The dude can bench coach with the best of them

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Expound on this with examples and reasoning.

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McMan ability with X's and O's

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People keep regurgitating this line with zero explanation.

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if he doesn't have the Jimmy's and Joe's

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Recruiting is probably the best thing he’s done.

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don’t see how anyone can defend McMahon at this point .

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"Do not underestimate the power of the McMen" -
Darth Vader, probably

Their games are both on YouTube. All anyone has to do is watch a few minutes of one after the other and it’s obvious this talking point is false. But more importantly is that we’ve seen 3 cycles of players now ranging from top 100 recruits to accomplished veteran transfers yet the same mistakes and problems are still front and center. This isn’t a personnel problem.

Biggest complaint about McMahon is his inability to promote the program. To generate fan interest in basketball, you have to be part carnival barker. (see Dale Brown, Will Wade, Kim Mulkey) McMahon's personality is just not conducive to growing a program at LSU.

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To generate fan interest in basketball, you have to be part carnival barker.

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Perhaps initially. But the ONLY thing that really matters is winning. The coaches you mentioned (Brown, Wade, Mulkey) have big personalities. But more importantly, they won. I promise you, if Wade were 11-26 in the SEC his first 2+ seasons the apathy would be the same as it is now.

The fanbase WANTS to support the program. The crowd on Saturday was the best crowd of the season in terms of attendance. But when you've lost ~70% of your games against major conf. opponents you are going to have a hard time generating consistent support...no matter how much "carnival barking" you do. That's not unique to LSU. That's every fan base, in every sport, everywhere.

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I truly don’t see how you guys continue to watch this team & still support this trash.

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Because the team is 11-3 with quality wins?