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Matt McMahon Trajectory

Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:05 pm
Posted by BayouBengal21
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:05 pm
It’s obvious to say this season has been a train wreck, but wasn’t this foreseeable? I for one did not expect the Murray State level of players to succeed here in the SEC.

I know a majority of fans want him fired and replaced with Chris Beard. *for the record this will not happen, Woodward refused to hire Pat Casey…arguably Beard is a worse PR nightmare*

I just wonder if (pending recruits) he can turn the ship around. He was a decent coach at Murray St…and no one forgets how to coach over night.

He doesn’t have the talent…maybe he needs time?
Posted by Jack Crevalle
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:13 pm to
Posted by TAFP
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:13 pm to
On a positive note, he can’t lose more games than they play. He can only go up from here!
Posted by CalTiger53
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:18 pm to
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This post was edited on 2/21/23 at 10:45 pm
Posted by WaterLink
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:22 pm to
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but wasn’t this foreseeable?


No one expected it to be this bad. No one. I don't think anyone thought we'd be competing for the conference title or anything, most thought middle of the pack, or if we'd be below that we'd be at least competitive in most games and just fall short in a lot of them. No one thought this was a dead last in the conference team or a team that would look uncompetitive in as many games as we have.

He's going to get 3 years imo. I'm resigned to that. I would love to see him turn it around but

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(pending recruits)


doesn't inspire any confidence. And

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He was a decent coach at Murray St


Murray St has had a lot of coaches succeed there, they're the premier program of the Ohio Valley. Most of them haven't panned out when they took on bigger jobs. This was one of my fears when he was first hired.

He's getting 2 more years whether any of us like it or not with his contract. I 100% hope he rights the ship in that time because I want our team to win and be fun to follow. I haven't seen any signs that inspire confidence in that regard though.
Posted by LesnarF5
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:27 pm to
His trajectory can only go up.
Posted by BayouBengal21
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2019
631 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:33 pm to
Rewind to tRant after the firing of Wade & decommits. Everyone with sense knew it would be bad. We only got excited because McMahon was able to field a team.
Posted by WaterLink
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2015
17230 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:51 pm to
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We only got excited because McMahon was able to field a team.


It wasn't just LSU fans, a lot of MBB fans and pundits outside the LSU fandom thought the guys we were bringing in could keep us at least in the middle of the SEC. Not dead last. Turns out they, as well as us, were all wrong. If MM was such a good Xs and Os coach he should have them playing better than they are at least, because he's not fielding a D2 level roster or anything like that either. I can acknowledge that he wasn't handed a stacked deck and was gonna have to work to play his hand, but I don't subscribe to the notion that what we've seen in SEC play this year is the best that can be gotten out of this roster. I just don't. And that ultimately falls on coaching.

We'll see what happens with the roster next year. The current recruiting prospects are not good. There's always the transfer portal again, but don't be surprised to see guys bail on this team as well when the portal opens up.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35389 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 10:58 pm to
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No one expected it to be this bad. No one. I don't think anyone thought we'd be competing for the conference title or anything, most thought middle of the pack, or if we'd be below that we'd be at least competitive in most games and just fall short in a lot of them.

Why on Earth would think you could zero out a roster and recruiting class, then rebuild in March to finish middle of the pack in the SEC???

Do you think that half of the SEC isn't even trying? What an ignorant group of idiots you are to think that you can zero out a program and compete with the best teams in the country.
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27803 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:04 pm to
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but wasn’t this foreseeable?
Struggling was foreseeable, being historically bad was not.
Posted by BigTigerJoe
Member since Aug 2022
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Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:08 pm to
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Matt McMahon Trajectory

Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
5562 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:17 pm to
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No one expected it to be this bad. No one


bullshite, this very board was doomsday when Wade was go.
Posted by MrWalkingMan
31st Parallel North
Member since Aug 2010
6325 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:18 pm to
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Woodward refused to hire Pat Casey…arguably Beard is a worse PR nightmare*


Woodward didn’t hire Pat Casey because Pat Casey was a smokescreen for a much better candidate
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
27803 posts
Posted on 2/17/23 at 11:21 pm to
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middle of the pack
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Why on Earth would think you could zero out a roster and recruiting class, then rebuild in March to finish middle of the pack in the SEC???
Media picked them 8th at SEC media days, it’s not like this was just some random comment on the rant.

Also, can you tell me exactly how many players Missouri had returning from last year’s roster and how that has caused them to not be competitive in league play?
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:24 am to
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Why on Earth would think you could zero out a roster and recruiting class, then rebuild in March to finish middle of the pack in the SEC??? Do you think that half of the SEC isn't even trying? What an ignorant group of idiots you are to think that you can zero out a program and compete with the best teams in the country.

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What an ignorant group of idiots you are

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by mmcgrath

From the absolute moron that thinks Darius days would’ve been better off transferring last year instead of staying at lsu.

Posted by Morpheus
In your Dreams
Member since Apr 2022
4140 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 12:43 am to
For the record no one here wanted old arse Pat Casey over our current Knight in Shining Armor Coach JJ
Posted by Tiger Ugly
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
14488 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:27 am to
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I can acknowledge that he wasn't handed a stacked deck and was gonna have to work to play his hand, but I don't subscribe to the notion that what we've seen in SEC play this year is the best that can be gotten out of this roster. I just don't. And that ultimately falls on coaching.


These are my thoughts as well. I want CMM to succeed, but for anyone who has watched this SEC slate and followed recruiting to this point I don't see how there can't be concerns.
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14877 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:56 am to
The Mcmen and the Scotty boys can’t see logic and reason.

It’s why they build straw men and attack everything.

This year has managed to be worse than imagined and our current recruiting inspires no confidence and MM being a boring slug doesn’t inspire any turn around either.
Posted by grizzlylongcut
Member since Sep 2021
9433 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 7:58 am to
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for the record this will not happen, Woodward refused to hire Pat Casey…arguably Beard is a worse PR nightmare


Pat Casey was not getting hired because Pat Casey had just retired and want leaving the northwest anyway.
This post was edited on 2/18/23 at 8:00 am
Posted by Big4SALTbro
Member since Jun 2019
14877 posts
Posted on 2/18/23 at 8:01 am to
Just Mcmen making up things. Casey was never gonna be hired the dude is 100 and a west coast small ball coach.

Also letting pedos play is a much worse pr issue than a drunken fight with the gf.

Scott isn’t gonna hire beard though because Forde and dickie v would be mean again. Once we fire MM in 5 years we will let the ghost of dickie v force us to hire lil Ricky.
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