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re: Matt Flynn breaks down some plays and simple reads Nuss and OL miss

Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:23 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:23 pm to
Critiquing games like Auburn and Arkansas isn’t “hate”. Ignoring praise and clipping critiques to label someone isn’t calling someone out, it’s misrepresentation in order to push a narrative.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:30 pm
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13263 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:42 pm to
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A lot of people have revisionist history on Flynn. Yes we won with him, but Perriloux likely would have been in the running for the heisman playing that season with that offense. Flynn completed something like 56% percent of his passes. His TD to int ratio was 2:1. Im not saying he didn't have some clutch plays that year, but he was 100% VERY inefficient. Matt Flynn was a worse version of Tee Martin in that Tennessee championship year.


Flynn was a good QB who gets overrated based on team success historically. Similar to Mauck, who was actually a better quarterback than Flynn, but still not a great one.

The biggest issue is you have an all new OL, many new WRs/TEs, and yet Sloan is insistent on calling a ton of RPOs and has no logic or creativity in the redzone. That is why he sucks.

Instead of slowly building the team's understanding of the offense and integrating the new players, he has gone pass-happy and relied on one or two run play calls over and over again. When the defense knows what is coming, it doesn't matter what the QB does unless they are a freak like Daniels was. Also, it doesn't help that he refuses to be creative with the formations and call multiple plays (Run/Pass) from the same formations.

That is entirely on Sloan and would make even JD or Burrow look bad.

Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:43 pm to
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Sloan taking more heat than he deserves maybe?


I don't understand the need to protect Sloan so much by some here. If he left LSU now, how many programs would be beating down the door to hire him as OC?
Posted by 3 In The Key
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:45 pm to
Jayden Daniels announces his return
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:46 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:49 pm to
Conflicts with


LINK


This is what I mean by clipping gotchas out of context and ignoring anything that doesn’t fit a narrative
Posted by 3 In The Key
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:53 pm to
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:55 pm to
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If the LT and TE dont whiff on blocks, walk in TD.

It wasn't a bad call considering Nuss almost threw an Int right before that play

It was a terrible call. We know how our running game and O-line looked against Ole Miss. They did what they had done all game. And there was zero deception. It was just a bad call by any measure.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:57 pm to
Again zero context. He had 3 turnovers in the first quarter his last game at ASU and looked awful in his last 3 games there. Your omission “we can win a national title with JD at QB”. Keep proving my point of you like
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Big EZ Tiger
Member since Jul 2010
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Someone pointed out that Parker was running a route on the play and was breaking open. If that was an RPO out of a set that we always run out of, then it’s possible Nuss blew the read and gave the ball when he shouldn’t have.

There’s no way to know for sure, but if that was the call and it produced an open route, then the issue was Nuss
I suppose that's possible, but I wouldn't leave a call that big up to Nuss. I know he's a 5th year senior, but he doesn't make the best decisions. Either way, I just didn't see enough imagination on what should have been one of our best plays in that situation.
Posted by 3 In The Key
Member since Oct 2025
16 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
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Your omission “we can win a national title with JD at QB”.

Link?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 1:59 pm to
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Savannah, GA
Member since Mar 2014
12696 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:00 pm to
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the offensive design and route concepts are fine


To be clear, this was for this game. The plays were much better than they have been. There were a lot of really questionable play calls and route concepts from weeks 2-5. There were offensive Changes made during the bye week that was similar to the Florida game last year.

If they can continue to build off of that then the offensive can be very effective.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
16529 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:01 pm to
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I don't understand the need to protect Sloan so much by some here. If he left LSU now, how many programs would be beating down the door to hire him as OC?

A lot of folks like to pick a target and throw all of the blame on them.

Here's the reality:
-Sloan has not molded the scheme to fit the players or even put the right ones on the field to make the scheme work. WR screens worked well week 1 and we don't do them anymore. We don't use RB screens. Berry would be great there. Zone blocking hasn't worked.
-Brad Davis has not taught good technique for OL. Footwork and handwork has been bad. They don't read stunts or hand off rushers.
-OL itself is just bad
-WR blocking is poor. Some routes are sloppy. Drops are happening.
-TE blocking is horrible. Atkins, a former OL coach should have this cleaned up.
-Too much indecision from the RBs
-Bad decisions by Nuss. Bad pre-snap reads. Inaccuracy on too many throws.

There is plenty of blame to pass around. Lastly, it all falls on the HC.
Posted by 3 In The Key
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:02 pm to
That's not what that post says. Keep lying.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66282 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:03 pm to
That’s pretty ironic.
Posted by 3 In The Key
Member since Oct 2025
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Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:06 pm to
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9051 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:12 pm to
Last years Defense sucked. Baker did not have the players to make it work.

This year, Baker looks like a genius.

Our O Line sucks big time, and Nuss is just not the man. He still panics and makes throws he should not make like he has done his entire time here.

So, is Sloan really the problem? Or do we just not have the guys that can get the job done?
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66282 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:13 pm to
All the crying and lies you forget the actual point. I not only “hate” JD, I personally hate him as much as you guys hate Nuss. Neither is true, you can’t praise and excuse someone you hate. The perfect example of this is the fact that even the couple posts I’ve given you here about Daniels far exceeded anything people who hate Nuss will ever post about him. Sorry it just isn’t close to the same thing.
This post was edited on 10/15/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5359 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:20 pm to
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WR screens worked well week 1 and we don't do them anymore


Yes we do. We've used them in every game.

quote:

WR blocking is poor.


BS. That's the brightest spot on the team IMO. WRs get after it blocking.

Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13263 posts
Posted on 10/15/25 at 2:26 pm to
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Our O Line sucks big time, and Nuss is just not the man. He still panics and makes throws he should not make like he has done his entire time here.

So, is Sloan really the problem? Or do we just not have the guys that can get the job done?


So then why did BK ask all the fans to pony up dough to buy him players for this year. Most are going to be one year rentals and we will be back as square one again next year.

It's not just about talent, the play calling has been the biggest issue, and last year was no different. LSU just had an excellent pass blocking OL and TE that really allowed a lot of things to open up and covered a lot of the BS play calling but could not help the running play calls work.

Sloan is predictable, redundant, and lacks the ability to adjust the scheme to the talent. He seems to be trying to run the same offense we had with JD, irrespective of the fact that Nuss is not a runner and we are bringing in a new and inexperienced OL as well as new playmakers. That is on him and shows poor coaching.

He's the guy that thinks if they just keep doing it that the offense will eventually work and adjustments be damned.

This isn't new. He sucked as an OC in his previous stops and La Tech was not sad to see him go and take a demotion to LSU.
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