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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
We're also 26th nationally in TOP. That equates to long, time consuming drives. It's a ball control offense. The stats are also skewed by the the first four games of the season when the team was not playing well. No, Canada's offense isnt gaudy with Big 12 type stats, but if you cant see an improvement over the product we were accustomed to seeing then you just being willfully blind.


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MrSpock is a very poor name for someone dumb enough to blame the QB for a loss caused by being dominated on both the offensive and defensive lines.



Point differential. Your boy had a QBR of 10. You losers like to tout his #20 QBR.


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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
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The fact that we have a below average "game manager" under center is.


It's some funny shite how lack of offensive production is now laid at the foot of Danny and not Canada or O but before the same lack of production was tied directly to Cam and Les. Never mind the fact those changing their tune also feel Danny to be better than either Jennings or Harris.
You have a point.

I think we all agree that the QB has been a limiting factor, both now and under Cam. Some blame goes to the feet of both Canada and Cam.

But, based on my perception, I would re-word your point slightly that morphs it to a large degree.

Cam/Les were avoiding his limitations at QB, while Canada/Orgeron are trying to work around those limitations.

However, these numbers especially the redzone and scoring stats indicate that while Canada/Orgeron are trying to work around those limitations, they haven't been very successful at it. Two bad games are dragging it down, but even with better performances earlier in the year they wouldn't be "good enough".

In other words, it should be better; I think it could be better.


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So now we don't care how many points we score?

The fact is Canada's offense scores less points per game than any Les Miles offense over the last 5 years.....


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Lsu manned up and took that game from them. The defense was lights out the 2nd half, but you idiots view it as Auburn choking?

Had it been us blowing a 20 point lead, you’d call it choking. Yes, the defense manned up, but Auburn’s defense also choked. Big time. Particularly on that dropped INT, and the fact that auburn took their foot off the gas in the second half.


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I20goon
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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
Trying to figure out how you got this...
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So now we don't care how many points we score?

from this...
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Cam/Les were avoiding his limitations at QB, while Canada/Orgeron are trying to work around those limitations.

However, these numbers especially the redzone and scoring stats indicate that while Canada/Orgeron are trying to work around those limitations, they haven't been very successful at it. Two bad games are dragging it down, but even with better performances earlier in the year they wouldn't be "good enough".

In other words, it should be better; I think it could be better.
but continue on. It's hard to argue a rebuttal to a point I didn't make.


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I was simply responding to the last post in this thread. The general consensus in here seems to be happy with canadas offense even though we score less than we did with Miles


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I was simply responding to the last post in this thread. The general consensus in here seems to be happy with canadas offense even though we score less than we did with Miles


Because it "looks different". There is a portion of our fan base that must be wowed by magicians or shiny objects. They are willing to suspend disbelief based on their eye test.


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Because it "looks different". There is a portion of our fan base that must be wowed by magicians or shiny objects. They are willing to suspend disbelief based on their eye test.


Did you see this board absolutely lose its shite when we opened up against BYU with shifting players on the line?

It was hilarious and I got crucified by saying that no one on the defense is reacting to all of the irrelevant motion.
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Hey, Les, go back to your podcast.


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I20goon
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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
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I was simply responding to the last post in this thread.
roger, my bad.

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The general consensus in here seems to be happy with canadas offense even though we score less than we did with Miles
I like what they are TRYING to do... which is "attack" (as opposed to "impose"). They just aren't doing it very well. It shows in those numbers.

There are reasons they aren't doing it well, no point in rehashing them. Except for the QB as it stands this year my expectations were for those reasons to be fixed by now (e.g. still some issues with WRs). They're batting about .500 on those.

ETA: it's frustrating the "tales of two halves". Not the 2nd half of games... the slow starts in the 1st halves. If our 1st half of games were like most of the 2nd, numbers would damn near double. We move the ball, but if in 1st half it's almost like we have a rule that must frick it up.
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Lonnie4LSU
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“ we score less “

Not only that, but in SEC games we are throwing the ball less, have a lower completion rate , and for less yds. than we did in 2015 And that’s with an overall better QB than in 2015.

I think most objective fans judge a college passing game on completion rate, your yds. gained passing, TDs passing and over all scoring . While there are certainly other measuring sticks, I think those are the main ones. I think they would also agree that the schedule played in 2015 was more difficult since it was ranked 5th as opposed to this yr. which is 25th.

I wasn’t ready to claim Cam was something special after 2013 and I haven’t seen anything much special bout Canada yet either.



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R11
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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
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Yeah 6-2 in conference will be better than a lot of people thought, but we did catch some breaks this year. Florida was a gift, and Auburn was a choke by them. Could easily be 4-4 or worse.




This logic is so fricking stupid.
Typical rantard garbage opinion.

By this theme 3 completions by etling vs Alabama and we win that game.


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rome wasnt built in a day


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Bonkers119
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I think if Etling does make those passes we do have a legitimate shot to win that game. Yes the offense looked better this year against a strong Bama team.

We put up 17 points against Florida, one of the worst teams in the sec this year. At the end of the day Canada's offense is underachieving. If you can't see that in the numerous stats I have posted since starting this thread, then you're adhering to the typical rantard garbage opinion. Sorry some people are too blind to see what's in front of their face.
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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
Also 6th in the SEC in yards per play and 7th in yards per game.

We were 1st in YPP and 9th in yards per game last season.


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re: Matt Canada's offense is 10th in the SEC
What matters is the W/L. That's it.


Mo Jeaux
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What matters is the W/L. That's it.


Not entirely.


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It absolutely matters, but if you bring in one of the "Best" OCs in the country results should matter too.
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