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re: Mandel: lsu pasting of Washington means nothing
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:32 am to TriumphTiger
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:32 am to TriumphTiger
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Very fair analysis - just take of business and none of this matters!
+1
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:39 am to Ole War Skule
Doesn't matter. We take care of business, and everything else falls into place.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:41 am to Ole War Skule
PAC 12 has 2 unbeaten teams
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:43 am to bigbowe80
Mandel usually makes good points but in this case he’s way off. LSU was so dominant against Washington, how can that dominance mean so little? LSU did dominate Auburn, but their failure to handle the ball made the score closer than it should have been. To put no value on Wash def. of Stanford makes no sense.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:43 am to Ole War Skule
Means we would paste uscw
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:45 am to dreaux
I will say that there are some trends with this team (LSU) that are a bit concerning, particularly the O-Line play. That said, it isn't a mystery why, they lost Faulk and are adjusting. Once the O-Line gets right, and they will, the other offensive flaws will correct themselves.
On the Auburn win, it was a WIN AT AUBURN. No matter how down they are are how strong LSU is, this game is always tight when they play there. Remember 2006? LSU averaged over 36 ppg outside of the Auburn game, but that Auburn game was an ugly 3-7 loss. 2008? 26-21 win for LSU. Stanford would have loved a 12-10 win last night.
On the PAC 12, it is a good league with parity, but there's a reason that when the rankings come out next week, HALF of the top 10 will be SEC schools. Noticed last night that the announcers talked about how teams in the PAC 12 had either size or speed on the D-Line. Most SEC teams have both.
On the Auburn win, it was a WIN AT AUBURN. No matter how down they are are how strong LSU is, this game is always tight when they play there. Remember 2006? LSU averaged over 36 ppg outside of the Auburn game, but that Auburn game was an ugly 3-7 loss. 2008? 26-21 win for LSU. Stanford would have loved a 12-10 win last night.
On the PAC 12, it is a good league with parity, but there's a reason that when the rankings come out next week, HALF of the top 10 will be SEC schools. Noticed last night that the announcers talked about how teams in the PAC 12 had either size or speed on the D-Line. Most SEC teams have both.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:46 am to Weaver
Well I see Mandel didn't waste any time being preemptive in his agenda with his yearly bashing of anything LSU.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:51 am to ffishstik
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Stanford would have loved a 12-10 win last night.
Yep
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:52 am to Jester
And Alabama loved a 12-10 win against Tennessee a few years ago too.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 7:58 am to bigbowe80
(probably already said in one way or another, but...) had auburn not lost to..., then the narrowness of our road win over them wouldn't need to be vindicated. so, yes, rankings/perception are all about transitive properties.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:03 am to RealityTiger
LSU's win against UW is more impressive than Bama's "signature wins" against Arkansas and Michigan. In my opinion, Alabama still hasn't beaten anybody worth mentioning.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:03 am to McLemore
No one should be surprised by this. The day after we undressed Washington, the ESPN Pac 12 blogger basically did a pre-emptive strike on this. They were in full 'protect the agenda' mode before Washington had even left Baton Rouge.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:09 am to ProjectP2294
One thing I'm waiting for is for someone in the media that's trying to downplay LSU to try to marginalize Washington's win by saying that the main reason Stanford lost is because they had a new QB making his first conference road start.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:10 am to bigbowe80
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It's funny how the "myth" of transitive property has not stopped many commentators from readily predicting LSU to be cotton or outback bowl bound (from BCS Champ game a week before) soley because we played or first road test in a very hostile environment which was a night game.
Right. The transitive property is a myth, unless it's not. One off game for a team can mean nothing, or everything. It's all speculation.
That being said, I don't have a problem with the article. I do believe that we'll have a better gage of the Tigers when they play in the swamp a week and a day from now.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:14 am to Ole War Skule
He's wrong. It is a win. With that win, LSU remains unbeaten. It will also matter for some of the computer polls in the BCS formula.
However, his general premise is correct.
However, his general premise is correct.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:14 am to Ole War Skule
I think it is fair game when Oregon beats all of these crappy teams from that conference and then the talking heads will start spouting off about how good Oregon is.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:17 am to spslayto
A win is a win, and you'll never hear me say anything different. LSU got the job done, while USC and Stanford didn't.
I love CFB because it's so hard to keep the young guys motivated and their heads in the game for 12-14 straight weeks. They hear how good they are in class and slack off in the gym for 2 weeks and boom, loss
I love CFB because it's so hard to keep the young guys motivated and their heads in the game for 12-14 straight weeks. They hear how good they are in class and slack off in the gym for 2 weeks and boom, loss
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:20 am to Ole War Skule
True for any other sport that has some sort of playoff system. In the world of subjective rankings of College Football you HAVE to make these types of comparisons.
Posted on 9/28/12 at 8:26 am to JermStone
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He's kinda right. Only thing I don't agree with was him saying lsu was thoroughly uninpressive against auburn. He should be slightly impressed with the stifling defense that played that game imo
I agree with this. In fact our defense was great. The offense didn't do all that badly either. The things that hurt us in that game were things we excelled at last year. Special teams and turnovers. Throw in a bunch of stupid after the fact personal fouls and there you have it.
Assuming special teams gets back on track, we take better care of the ball and stop the dumb penalties, we are still the number one or two team in the country. The talent is still there.
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