re: Man i wish we still had Will Wade as coach

Will Wade was stupid and sloppy, and he got caught. The program is in the shape it's in BECAUSE of him.

Wasn't he supposed to be the Ole Miss coach? Even the Rebels wanted no part of him.

Besides, it's just basketball.

If wade had any class he would come out and apologize to you supporters
He’s the reason this has to be endured

So Orgeron is the reason Kelly is winning or does your logic change based on your agenda?

Right... It's infuriating

Want a Winner? got to "Play the Game"

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LSU had a football program to protect.

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People really believe this? Seriously?

That firing a basketball coach has anything to do with the Football program?

You REALLY fear the NCAA that much, even as they are proven feckless against anyone that stands up to them?

I love Will Wade. I wish he was still our coach. He's the GOAT LSU basketball coach IMO. With that being said he couldn't win with this roster. Wade's biggest strength was getting great players so he likely wouldn't have to win with this roster. CMM walked into a terrible situation and anybody that expects his run to get off ground any earlier than next season is delusional. He may not be the guy for the job but there is no way to know until he has a competent roster.

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I love Will Wade. I wish he was still our coach. He's the GOAT LSU basketball coach IMO. With that being said he couldn't win with this roster. Wade's biggest strength was getting great players so he likely wouldn't have to win with this roster. CMM walked into a terrible situation and anybody that expects his run to get off ground any earlier than next season is delusional. He may not be the guy for the job but there is no way to know until he has a competent roster.

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This is MM's roster. It has 8 guys that are 4-star or better including one 5-star. If the roster sucks, it's on him.

Wade routinely turned over 6-7 guys a year on his roster. That is just want high major college basketball looks like now with the transfer portal. You don't get to piss and moan about the roster you inherited when you are in year 2.

This is not 1995, you are not stuck with what you inherited. This is McMahon's roster and it has talent. Despite that, he cannot win at this level. He doesn't seem to know how to manage his roster in the transfer portal era (putting all his PG eggs in the Jalen Cook basket). This is not about what he inherited, this is about what he has done since he got here.

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With that being said he couldn't win with this roster.

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He took much of Jones' roster from a 2-16 (SEC) season, added Tremont Waters, and had a decent team in year one (NIT). They beat the (eventual) national runner-up (Michigan) in game 3. He could win with this roster. SEC champ? No. In the hunt for a NCAAT bid? Certainly.

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CMM walked into a terrible situation and anybody that expects his run to get off ground any earlier than next season is delusional

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Yes, he walked into a less than ideal situation. But the reality is with the transfer rules most new HCs walk into situations with significantly depleted rosters. The good news is the with transfer rules that HC and immediately rebuild a winning roster. Iowa St.'s HC did it. K-State's HC did it. Missouri's HC did it. But even if you say "hey, those teams making the NCAAT in year one are the outliers", that's fine. But there is a world of difference between not making the NCAAT immediately and being the worst team in the conference. If McMahon had won 6, 7, 8, SEC games last year I think everyone would have said, "Ok. That's something to build off of". But he didn't. He had the worst record in the league and was not even competitive in most of the games. He's then followed that up, with a significantly new roster, by starting out 1-2 and giving no indication things are getting better.

That aside, this is McMahon's roster. There is only ONE player left from the Wade era (Wilkinson). And he's going to have to build a significantly new roster again next year...regardless of how LSU performs this season. That is the nature of college basketball right now. The only "delusional" people are the ones who think college basketball rebuilds take years of stacking recruiting classes in the new transfer era. That's simply not how it works any longer. Need proof? 50% of McMahon's first signing class is already gone.

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He may not be the guy for the job but there is no way to know until he has a competent roster.

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He's built two rosters now. Assuming by the nature of your comment you believe this current roster is "incompetent", when might you expect him to build a "competent" roster? Because, and this might come as a surprise, he's almost assuredly going to have to bring in 7-8 new players next season

In year 1 he could lean on his success at Murray St. to get the benefit of the doubt in brining in new players.

In year 2, after a terrible performance at LSU, he was left largely with having to find transfers with Louisiana ties who were willing to join a losing program (Wright, Cook, Stewart, Dean).

If he has a poor season this year he may not be able to attract even guys with Louisiana ties. (We've already seen one on on the recruiting trail this week when Miller, who many felt was going to LSU, signed with Oregon). He has a record now at LSU. So players are going to continue to care less and less about what he did at Murray St. If he struggles this year at some point prospects/potential transfers will look at McMahon and say "you've built two rosters. Neither have had any success. Why should I come there to lose?"

I want McMahon to succeed. I really, really do. But thus far he has given ZERO reason for anyone to think he will. So if you guys hate the constant Will Wade discussion and bashing of McMahon there is a quick way McMahon can silence that...Win!!!

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You do when that roster inherited had a total of 2 players. Looming sanctions also hurt when trying to get players in the portal and in recruiting. This roster isn't good enough period. Wade is the only coach to consistently get top level talent to LSU. LSU isn't a national known brand in basketball. It's a hard place to win and that's why it's more impressive that Wade did. It was always going to take at least year 3 to even compete to get to tournament. Again thinking a school that has never been nationally relevant in basketball was gonna replace their GOAT coach while losing virtually the entire roster while under looming sanctions was gonna be competitive in year 2 is DELUSIONAL.

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8 players on this roster have a 4-star or better ranking. Getting talent is not the problem. Keep making excuses.

ETA. That is not including Cook.

You're nuts. Shows your character