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re: Malik Nabers 4.35 official 40-yard dash at Pro Day

Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:47 am to
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:47 am to
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There’s an inherent selection bias in the data.


That is every single player I could find that ran at both the last 15 years


Why are fans defensive over the fact lsu has a fast track on their indoor facility? you’re acting like this is a Kent Babb hit piece.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:52 am to
And buddy, “slow” & “fast” in these instances are relative to a number of different variables.

Furthermore, players that choose to stand on a combine time is strictly a business decision. As the data shows they more than likely would improve their time. But it’s not worth the risk of an injury, or a stumble, or anything of that sort. If you are locked in, you always stay put.
Posted by IM_4_LSU
Augusta, GA
Member since Mar 2014
8993 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 7:57 am to
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42” vert
10’ 09” broad jump


Just an athletic freak.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:10 am to

Malik Nabers 4.35 official 40-yard dash at Pro Day
its a well known fact there is not as much gravity at LSU
________________

Sure there is. It is disguised as humidity.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
9297 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:12 am to
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That is every single player I could find that ran at both the last 15 years

I’m well aware. I’m simply pointing out that the players who run at both are more likely to be players who know they can improve on their combine time, which will skew the data.

I should have said “sampling bias” rather than “selection bias,” though.
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And buddy, “slow” & “fast” in these instances are relative to a number of different variables.

Buddy, I realize that it’s all relative. But I would like to know what variables lead to the conclusion that Danielle Hunter and Donte Jackson are slow, relatively speaking.
Posted by KWL85
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:17 am to
That doesn't prove your statement. I am guessing you know that, but just like to argue.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:27 am to
Put in your own words what you think that data represents

This should be good should you try and answer
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:30 am to
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But I would like to know what variables lead to the conclusion that Danielle Hunter and Donte Jackson are slow, relatively speaking.


No need to take it 100% literal. Not every single guy was “slow-slow”.

Jackson was just fricking around tho. He had it like that
Posted by KC Tiger
Member since Sep 2006
4617 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 8:31 am to
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Lester Earl

quote:

You didn’t have to post all all that. I never said Indy had a slow track lol


Somebody tryin’ to crawfish on us

Posted by TigerAlum93
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 9:47 am to
Nabors ran a 4.4 on his second attempt. Not surprising to me that he can run a 4.4 on a stopwatch at LSU Pro day. Kid is a great athlete. Your data was interesting, the one I remember most is Adams running just under 4.6 at the combine then "somehow" improving to 4.33 at LSU Pro day two weeks later. He is a great player but prolly not a 4.3 guy.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:00 am to
Adams definitely got the biggest draft boost from it.

Guys like

Deion jones
Jeremy hill
Jarvis Landry
Morris Claiborne
Jalen mills
Danielle Hunter
Kevin minter

Also received nice boosts
Posted by Locoguan0
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2017
4235 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:01 am to
Interesting that JD said he thinks he is faster than MN and BTj.
Posted by iwyLSUiwy
I'm your huckleberry
Member since Apr 2008
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Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:13 am to
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Morris Claiborne


Mo had been locked into a top 5 pick for some time. Has last year about every scouting report had him listed as "a better version of Patrick Peterson." The Cowboys had him the highest rated CB since Deion. His 40 time didn't do all that much for him, just helped solidify his spot.

Defintely wasn't better than Patrick Peterson or the next coming of Deion, but he ended up having a pretty decent career and got a ring.
Posted by slackster
Houston
Member since Mar 2009
84648 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:41 am to
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15yrs of data does not discriminate


11 of those years had different turf at Lucas oil so they’re useless.

We have 4 guys that have ran at both since 2018 turf was installed and they’ve averaged .05 faster at LSU vs Lucas Oil.

Not exactly the sample size and variance that would suggest LSU is “notoriously” fast.
This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 10:45 am
Posted by purpgoldblood
stick
Member since Oct 2005
1147 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:49 am to
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I think Nabers and Thomas Jr will be like the second comin of Jefferson/Chase.


Let’s not leave out OBJ and Juice Landry.

LSU likes to drop elite receivers into the league 2 at a time
This post was edited on 3/28/24 at 10:50 am
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:50 am to
Yap, totally random. Lmao
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278193 posts
Posted on 3/28/24 at 10:52 am to
Lets take off Claiborne & add Reuben Randle
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