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re: Mainieri says no Hilliard or Labas this weekend

Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by LaBR4
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:02 pm to
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I think Hilliard will be out this weekend


Posted by thunderbird1100
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:04 pm to
Here's to Bush giving us 8 solid innings tomorrow
Posted by paper tiger
acadiana
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:04 pm to
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Pitching Hillard in a non elimination game on short rest was very dumb, and I said it at the time so this isnt hindsight I usually am a CPM supporter too. But that was not wise


Hilliard pitched on five days full rest. That is plenty rest for a pitcher, its the normal rest in the pros where they play a longer season.

I am sorry he is hurt, but I don't agree a coach is at fault for pitching a kid on five days rest.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:08 pm to
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Hilliard pitched on five days full rest. That is plenty rest for a pitcher, its the normal rest in the pros where they play a longer season.
Hillard is a freshman

He was used to pitching every 7th day (6 days rest)

He pitched on Friday in Auburn, and then Weds in the tournament. Friday was his normal rest for what he is accustomed to at this point

For the first year in his college career, shortening his rest by 2 full days in a non elimination game was not wise.


Now, like I said, it may not have been the reason for injury, but I still dont think it was smart
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:16 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
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Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:10 pm to
Lol we are so fricked
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:11 pm to
CPM said nothing structural just fatigue.

What is the status of Storz? has Caberra been working at all as a pitcher in practice? Walker?
Posted by TeddyPadillac
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:11 pm to
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Hess
Bush
Fontenot
Peterson
Beck
Sanders
Bain
Veitmeier
Kodros


what about Gilbert?
We will need a 2017 Gilbert like performance from someone if we intend on winning this regional.
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:11 pm to
Well guys, it's been a rough year, but we return A LOT next year including Walker. Should be a top 10 team and it will be a blast.

Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:12 pm to
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Mainieri "I think both Hilliard and Labas will be out this weekend... nothing structural, just fatigue


So Hilliard threw 97 pitches on Friday, had 4 days rest, and threw 97 pitches on Wednesday. Unless I'm missing anything, he's on 8 days rest as of today. How did we screw this up?
Posted by TheCaterpillar
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:14 pm to
He has shoulder soreness. It happens. Can't do anything about it but rest.

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:14 pm to
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So Hilliard threw 97 pitches on Friday, had 4 days rest, and threw 97 pitches on Wednesday.
quote:

How did we screw this up?
It isnt a big deal, but maybe throwing a freshman 2 days earlier than normal is what caused his arm to fatigue?
Posted by slackster
Houston
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:15 pm to
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He has shoulder soreness. It happens. Can't do anything about it but rest.


Yeah, I get that, but throwing him against UF on 4 days rest was always going to be a risky decision. Damn that sucks.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:16 pm to
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but throwing him against UF on 4 days rest was always going to be a risky decision
Yeh, that has been my point in here. Some disagree with us apparently
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:16 pm to
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what about Gilbert?


I didn't intentionally leave him off the list, but I won't be very hopeful if we reach a point where he has to enter the game.

Given our injuries, it will be an incredible accomplishment to win this regional. It would be miraculous if we won it coming out of the loser's bracket.
Posted by DhanTigers212
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Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:17 pm to
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75818 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:18 pm to
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It isnt a big deal, but maybe throwing a freshman 2 days earlier than normal is what caused his arm to fatigue?


I'm sure it was a contributing factor.

Do you think it was more or less of a contributing factor than his cumulative workload vs his smaller frame?

ETA: It could have just been the tipping point too.
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted by Pelican fan99
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
38843 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:18 pm to
We pretty much need Hess to dominate them Saturday going deep into the game and piece together 1 win in the next two. Unlikely but definitely possible
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted by TheCaterpillar
Member since Jan 2004
76774 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:19 pm to
Is there even a small chance Paul is using a little gamesmanship here and Hilliard walks out there on Sunday?

That's 3 more nights of rest, ice, dry needling, etc.

This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:19 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
108118 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:20 pm to
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Do you think it was more or less of a contributing factor than his cumulative workload vs his smaller frame?

I have no idea

Look I am not pitchfork after CPM for this, and I am not even saying it contributed at all. It could be a coincidence entirely

I just said at the time I would not have pitched a young pitcher on 2 days short rest for what he is accustomed to in a non-elimination game. And I stick to that
This post was edited on 5/31/18 at 3:22 pm
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75818 posts
Posted on 5/31/18 at 3:22 pm to
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Is there even a small chance Paul is using a little gamesmanship here and Hilliard walks out there on Sunday?


I don't think that's ever really been his style, but I wouldn't rule it out completely. I would bet heavily against it though.
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