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re: Mainieri after Duplantis homerun

Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:28 pm to
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He didn’t “pull” anyone.

Sorry, but youre wrong on this one

I blew the video up, and focused solely on PM. He lunged forward and extended his right hand to grab a player that was past the warning track, then with his left hand he made contact with the shoulder of a player standing inside the warning track

This is very obvious because they are the only two players whose forward progress is stopped, and they then took 2 steps back. There was no reason at all to pull on the 2nd player, who had never crossed the warning track line.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133559 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:35 pm to
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Did you just call me a drama queen?
Yes. As did another poster in this thread.

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but you think you can see in that grainy gif him tapping someone on the shoulder.
Yes. I can magnify the image using my iPad. Mainieri most definitely touches the player’s shoulder or upper back. He never “grabbed” the player.

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Whether he tapped him or grabbed him isn’t important.
So now you’re crawfishing on your OP description that Mainieri was “pulling players” (plural) back towards the dugout? It didn’t happen.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:35 pm to
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So Mainieri “grabbed” a player and the player didn’t even turn around to see who was “grabbing” him? You’re just wrong and now you’re doubling down on being wrong. My question remains: why are you lying about what happened?


Did you eat paint chips as a kid?

What is your fricking point that the player didn’t turn around? Does that prove that he “tapped him”? Again, I don’t care if he tapped him or pulled him. The player barely responded. You going to argue that?
This post was edited on 5/12/19 at 10:36 pm
Posted by LSUJML
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:35 pm to


I still don’t see him grabbing anyone
I think the way he turned & the purple shirt behind who I assume is Beck stepped back as he turned looks like it but you can see his arms after he taps who, again, I assume is Beck

It doesn’t matter one way or another if he did or didn’t tell them to get back
There is a rule in place & it is his job as the coach to make sure the team follows the rules

You are seeing what you want to see because you want him gone

quote:

All personnel of both teams must be in their team’s dugout area or bullpen
and remain there until the ball has been declared dead or the side has been
retired.This excludes the batter, the on-deck batter, base runners, base
coaches and the nine defensive players (see 5-2-c)

Rule book
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:35 pm to
You’re wrong, too.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:37 pm to
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So now you’re crawfishing on your OP description that Mainieri was “pulling players” (plural) back towards the dugout? It didn’t happen.


I can clearly see that he pulled a player by the shoulder from behind. Your dumbass can’t. You are just playing a game of semantics.
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:41 pm to
His right hand is on beck and his left hand is on someone else behind him in purple. He pulls both players back.

Go get your eyes checked and stop attacking me for describing the video accurately.

The players take one step back and then go forward again cheering while mainieri heads back to the dugout.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133559 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:42 pm to
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The player barely responded.
So a player is “pulled” by someone back towards the dugout and he “barely” responds? That’s nuts.

I can clearly see the player who Mainieri touches and says something to and the player’s windbreaker never moves like when someone pulls on it. Not any movement or stretching at all.

Look, you’re a drama queen who started a thread entirely based on a complete lie. Whatever your motivation is, it’s still a lie. Congratulations for getting the attention you obviously crave.
Posted by LSUJML
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:44 pm to
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I can clearly see that he pulled a player by the shoulder from behind. Your dumbass can’t. You are just playing a game of semantics.


It doesn’t fricking matter if he did or didn’t
It’s against the rules to be outside of the dirt in front of the dug out

To act like he was being an a-hole to the players because he wants to be is not true
I have posted the rule & rule book

I have also posted where A&M starting pitcher Lacy was ejected & is disqualified next weekend for arguing balls & strikes

Assuming it was Beck & he stayed in the grass & ump ejected him & disqualified him against Auburn would you be ok with that because at least CPM was letting the team celebrate a HR?

There’s a ton of crap with the program I am not pleased with but to shite on CPM for enforcing NCAA rules is petty & childish
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33359 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:46 pm to
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You’re wrong, too.

about?
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 10:49 pm to
calling people drama queens while you get all worked up because I said the player was grabbed


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133559 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:04 pm to
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while you get all worked up because I said the player was grabbed
No, I’m “all worked up” because your OP is a complete lie.

Like JML said, there are plenty of valid reasons for criticizing Mainieri but starting a thread claiming he was pulling players away from celebrating a truly happy moment with a teammate in a big game when that didn’t happen is beyond pathetic on your part.

And then you continue to parse words (maybe he just grabbed and not pulled) makes you look worse than pathetic. It makes you look dishonest.
Posted by LesnarF5
Member since Apr 2015
9524 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:07 pm to
Hey is this just a fricking headline to just argue?
Posted by Purplengoldtigerfan
Eunice
Member since Sep 2015
906 posts
Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:09 pm to
You go from making it seem like he should be getting happy, and allow his players to get happy.... To making it seem like he’s getting physical with his team. Which is it?
Posted by LSUJML
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Member since May 2008
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Posted on 5/12/19 at 11:24 pm to
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calling people drama queens while you get all worked up because I said the player was grabbed


No, because you said this

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Trying to pull players back in the dugout who are celebrating. They didn’t listen and he went sulking back into the dugout. Wtf is wrong with this guy. 3 run bomb to take the lead, he should be getting everyone fired up


You took something very minor & turned it into:
CPM not allowing the team to celebrate
Players ignoring him
CPM “sulking”

Again, you are entitled to your opinions but the truth is it’s not difficult to link the twitter video & if you wanted to prove your point you would have done so
No different than the threads saying CPM was throwing players under the bus until actual quotes were posted

If you think rationally about it for a moment you would come to the conclusion that he’s not being an a-hole, there’s a rule in place & guys on the grass were breaking it

Start a thread saying you hate his guts, at least it’s honest

I’m done arguing with you about it, you see what you see, I see what I see but the FACT is rules are in place & he was doing his job
Posted by WaWaWeeWa
Member since Oct 2015
15714 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 7:17 am to
Facts:
- Mainieri grabbed, pulled, or tapped more than one player
- They barely respond to him and continue cheering
- Paul walks slowly back to the dugout by himself while everyone is celebrating

Not a single word of that is a lie. It’s not up for debate.

It’s my OPINION that mainieri should be encouraging a celebration or some emotion because this team desperately needs a spark. Regardless of the rules I think it’s worth the risk. Again, that’s my opinion and I could easily be wrong. However the facts are the facts.
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
60687 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:20 am to
You keep using the word facts.

Fact is Mainieri wentbout and asked them to not go out and greet Dups. They did not.

Fact, PM. And every coach in America stay in the dugout during celebrations

Fact is that is as celebratory as you can be.


Fact is we obviously didn’t need a pep rally.. we just took the lead without one

Fact is PM was seen pushing players back towards the dugout multiple times this season

Fact, a suspended player as a result of breaking this newly enforced rule would be stupid and demonstrate a lack of control.

Fact is you have a negative view and took a nothing action as a window to paint Paul as weak, out of touch, and not respected.


Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133559 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 8:52 am to
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Facts:
- Mainieri grabbed, pulled, or tapped more than one player
Nope. Not a fact. At most he said something to them, probably something along the lines of "Don't go too far out on the grass." As JML has already posted, there's a rule prohibiting players from going on the field who are not in the game. Players can be ejected for doing so. And that would mean they'd likely be suspended for part of the Auburn series. If that had happened you'd be on here bitching that Mainieri had lost control of the team, he didn't know the rules and by letting the players violate rules he got players suspended when we're already short handed.
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They barely respond to him and continue cheering
Respond how? What were they supposed to do? They continued celebrating because nothing Mainieri said to them was intended to dampen their celebration, which was the whole point of your OP.
"Boo-hoo, Mainieri is a big ole meanie. He won't let the players celebrate a homerun. " That's not a fact. That's a lie.
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Paul walks slowly back to the dugout by himself while everyone is celebrating
Not a fact. There were others who never left the dugout. Dunn was still in the dugout. So were Gibbs, Cory and Fury. I didn't see Ochinko outside the dugout so he may have still been there. So what? Should Mainieri have climbed on the roof of the dugout to do a T-Rex walk? It was a one run lead and there were still 6 outs to get in the game. My guess is he went back to Dunn and they started debating how far they'd let Peterson go in the game. Should someone else start stretching and/or warming up?

We get it: you hate Mainieri. And that's your right to do so. But to continue lying while calling your lies "facts" is idiotic and dishonest and makes you look childish.

This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 9:49 am
Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
51921 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:00 am to
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My guess is he went back to Dunn and they started debating how far they'd let Peterson go in the game. Should someone else start stretching and/or warming up?




Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40086 posts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 9:03 am to
Are you too dumb to point out actual issues with the team/program so you have to settle for this? I'm just dumbfounded by this thread. He walks out and says something to a player who takes a couple steps back and he goes back into the dugout. Jesus Christ, who cares? Let's talk about why the catcher position has been trash for two years. Maybe about why our pitchers seem to have regressed the last couple of years (when they aren't being shelved for weeks at a time with soreness). Maybe talk about the seeming lapses in focus and intensity for stretches of games. This is just stupid.
This post was edited on 5/13/19 at 9:04 am
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