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re: LSU's RBI problem as shown through HRs

Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:25 pm to
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Crews himself prefers to hit leadoff


That’s cool and all, but you kinda need to fill in what’s best for the team. And it’s not just about the guarantee of batting with no one on once a game. Hitting Crews 2nd or 3rd will put higher OBP guys in front of him.

I still don’t think simply swapping the batting order around will fix our woes. The order won’t fix the strikeouts.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:25 pm to
Yeah, that's what I meant to type. Corrected.
Posted by NorthEndZone
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:26 pm to
quote:

Totals for the season less than 2 outs and RISP:

184 PAs, 139 ABs, 37 Hits, 28 BBs (2 IBB), 4 HBP, 36 Ks, 8 SFs, 2 SHs, 74 RBIs.

BA is 0.266, OPB is 0.375, K%/PA is 0.196


Great info. What do those numbers look like for the 6 SEC games only? I would imagine a significant drop-off for most everyone other than Morgan.
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9469 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:26 pm to
I liked Arnold in the 9-hole with Crews at leadoff.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:28 pm to
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Great info. What do those numbers look like for the 6 SEC games only? I would imagine a significant drop-off for most everyone other than Morgan.
Honestly, these situations were few and far between even in the two games we scored a bunch of runs. But yes, there was a dropoff.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70248 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:31 pm to
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K%/PA is 0.196


Lower than our overall k rate of 21.8%. I'm a little surprised by that.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7468 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:35 pm to
quote:

36 Ks, 8 SFs, 2 SHs


This seems like a bad ratio.

quote:

Crews is only batting 0.083 (1 for 12) but has 7 walks which is good for the 5th highest OBP at 0.421

At some point you have to think they'll start pitching to Crews because
quote:

Morgan is hitting 0.500 with 13 RBIs in this situation.


Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:37 pm to
The interesting cases are Doughty and Crews to me.

Doughty is the all or nothing guy. 25 PA. 21 AB. 6 H. 1 BB. 3 SF. 8 K. 14 RBI. Literally, hit or miss.

Crews I've already mentioned. 1 for 12 with 7 walks. Only 1 K though. I recall at least 3 of the outs I charted were line outs. It may have been 4.

Obviously, I was shocked with no Ks for Arnold. That's in 10 PAs for him. 3 for 8 with 2 walks and 7 RBIs.

Milazzo is also an interesting case even with a limited sample. 5 PAs. 1 BB. 1 H. 2 RBI. 1 K. I thought he was worse in these situations. But it turns out he's mostly in the position of having 2 outs when he comes up to bat.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 4:40 pm
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7468 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:39 pm to
Yeah its not as bad as I expected either. Maybe all the pop-ups get grouped as strikeouts in my memory
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
9469 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:39 pm to
Morgan doesn't like batting leadoff, and he's 1/7 there.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
70248 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:40 pm to
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Obviously, I was shocked with no Ks for Arnold. That's in 10 PAs for him. 3 for 8 with 2 walks and 7 RBIs.


He should play more.

If there is specific game where it looks like infield defense is going to be the determining factor, play Cranford. But then DH Arnold.

ETA: And he should bat 5th probably, but if you're really trying to break up the LH/RH, he could bat 6th with Drost/Sanford at 5. Or Beloso if the light comes on for him.
This post was edited on 3/29/21 at 4:49 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85032 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:41 pm to
quote:

This seems like a bad ratio.
A SF is just a flyout. Lots of guys are moving runners or scoring runners with groundball outs. Those only show up as RBIs or don't show up at all.
quote:

At some point you have to think they'll start pitching to Crews because
Crews is getting pitches to hit, he's just not getting it done. From what I saw, it was mostly luck. Like I said before, at least 3 line outs.
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
7468 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 4:55 pm to
quote:

Those only show up as RBIs or don't show up at all.


For some reason I was thinking they would be an SH. Guess not
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5344 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 5:04 pm to
quote:

y'all just need to forget about what happened in pre conference play



what?

You're telling that lineup doesn't have potential?

Dylan Crews, Tre Morgan, and Cade Doughty are all guys that clearly show they belong on this stage.

Beloso, Dugas and Gio have shown that they are more than capable of hitting the ball well.

Arnold clearly has potential, as shown by his numbers.

Thompson and Millazo need to experience SEC pitching, and Millazo even had a couple hits this weekend.

I'm sorry that stating that our players have potential (which they clearly do) doesn't align with your "LSU is terrible" narrative.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
126962 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 7:02 pm to
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I don't think college stats track situational hitting
The SEC website has team situational stats but I haven't found where they report individual situational stats.

Some of LSU's situational stats: (All games)

Pinch hitters batting average: .250

BA with runners in scoring position: .270

BA with runner on 3rd with less than 2 outs: .575

BA with 2 outs: .269

Success advancing runners: .484

RBIs with 2 outs: 38

BA against right handed pitchers: .273

BA against left handed pitchers: .300

BA with runners on base: .268

BA with bases empty: .292

BA with bases loaded: .281

BA of leadoff hitter in an inning: .374

Stats for All Games AND SEC Games Only
Posted by Southpaw widowmaker
Mississippi
Member since Nov 2016
61 posts
Posted on 3/29/21 at 10:28 pm to
The players need to execute more. There is a difference between a home run swing, and a swing to make contact and just try to put the ball in play. It seems like hitting all the homeruns is making everyone want to swing for the fence. We have a dh that hits .218. That is unacceptable. Morgan at first would choke up and go opposite field , now seems like trying to pull the ball out. I have seen one guy on the shift bunt the ball down 3rd base line. We need to steal more, we have very fast guys. When canazarro was there we stole alot , which in turns puts pressure on the pitcher and makes him make mistakes. But when they know you don't steal alot. Stealing gets in a pitchers head. Its the small things that win close games. Be aggressive
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 6:08 am to
quote:

I'm sorry that stating that our players have potential (which they clearly do) doesn't align with your "LSU is terrible" narrative.


Never said terrible

Just way below the LSU standard

You can wish it to happen all you want. I guess that’s where we are different. I don’t live in a fairytale land.
Posted by PP7 for heisman
New Orleans
Member since Feb 2011
5344 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

I don’t live in a fairytale land.


Saying that this lineup has potential is not living in "fairytale land"
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16440 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:07 pm to
The strikeouts are killers
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278385 posts
Posted on 3/30/21 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Saying that this lineup has potential is not living in "fairytale land"


Yes it is. Come back in 6 weeks
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