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re: LSU’s offense isn’t a talent problem — it’s a sequencing/self-scout problem (receipts)

Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:12 am to
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
18657 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:12 am to
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I generally like him but his arrogance is what will hold us back.

I liked him too. I see it now though, this era is not for him. The game has passed him by. It happens to the best of them.
Posted by Former_5_Star
Member since Sep 2025
165 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:13 am to
The 2nd down and 10 after an incomplete pass, we’ve run in the situation for about 2 straight years every time. I was noticing that last year.

Outside/ Inside zone run that never works on 2nd and 10
Posted by xXLSUXx
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2010
10570 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:15 am to
Posted by jmarto1
Houma, LA/ Las Vegas, NV
Member since Mar 2008
37749 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:21 am to
The SEC isn't for the weak at heart and it isn't just something we say to elevate ourselves
Posted by pbro62
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2016
15169 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:22 am to
Let me guess what your winning percentage is with all this? 57%? Say otherwise.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50236 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:24 am to
They tried to flip the script on the 1st down run percentage yesterday. Before the final drive they only had 3 carries on a 1st down.

It blew up in their faces.

The 2nd and long run is the most predictable and vanilla play in football and is 100% coming from Kelly. It’s an old school mindset that doesn’t work.
This post was edited on 9/28/25 at 9:26 am
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13348 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:32 am to
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BK is the problem.


It’s so funny to me, that the OP took the time to lay out every single FACT involved in the offensive woes. Paragraph after paragraph of pertinent info that says there’s more than enough blame to go around for everyone

Yet you simpleminded cavemen can’t stop yourselves from saying HURR DURR ITS COACH KELLY every single chance you get




We get it. You dont like him. He has his faults but he’s also shown overtime that he at least tries to get it right. Give him a chance. Still a real decent chance this team can finish strong

Posted by kajunman
Member since Dec 2015
7638 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 9:59 am to
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Yet you simpleminded cavemen can’t stop yourselves from saying HURR DURR ITS COACH KELLY every single chance you get
He makes the decisions. He has total control. The o line stinks. Nuss stinks worse. Yet you and your kind think things are getting better. LSU has a bunch of Robin's at wr. No Batmans. He has a bunch of Batgirls at o line. He has the Joker as OC. Sloans play calling acumen is 0-10. Truth's hurt most times. Here we are.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
77972 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:03 am to
Good post and largely matches the eye test.

Slogan’s scheme is fine, in fact I’d say it’s pretty good. The sequence of playcalling isn’t. And Nuss isn’t good.

The playcalling can be fixed. Can Nuss? I don’t know.
Posted by N.O. via West-Cal
New Orleans
Member since Aug 2004
7672 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:04 am to
I think you’re wrong about the OL and lean too heavily on one stat (sack rate). The OL is very bad, making it hard to build an offense. Very thoughtful post, though.
Posted by Blakesfav
Member since Aug 2018
127 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:07 am to
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Apparently you like stats. Here’s a few for you:
84 offensive plays
480 total yards
28 first downs
4 of 5 in the red zone


Dude are you seriously going to try to out stat this guy lol.

Reminds me of an old saying, "never try talking teeth with a dentist..."
Posted by CrippleCreek
Member since Apr 2012
2384 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:10 am to
All that is true, and there’s an offensive skill talent problem too. Especially once you lose Aaron Anderson.

Yesterday, in year 4, LSU didn’t have a single BK HS recruit contributing on offense until Berry in the 4Q. All those portal guys would be nice final pieces, but none of them are dynamic enough to say this offense actually has a bunch of skill talent, and that is exacerbated by the fact that the offense has no “easy button” stuff.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
7488 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:15 am to
What you fail to mention is that it is not just a run or pass call problem. It is the design of the play under the situation. For instance, I counted 3 maybe 4 times LSU had 3rd and short...less than 2 yards, and our receiver caught the pass (another positive completion stat for the QB) and couldn't get to the first down marker....Parker made valiant effort to barely make the 1st down after running a route at least one yard short of the first down marker. Whatever happend to running to directly at a defender about 5 yds, and turning around and coming back to the QB for an easy throw and making the yards to gain. That has been called a button hook pass for the eternity of football, and LSU has never run the play as I described it. LSU doesn't play basic solid situational football on offense....it is horrible play design by our HC/OC. Any top HS coach in LA could do bettter for way less money, which could be used to buy more top players, which btw, will soon be the direction of how money is spent in college going forward. No more huge contracts to coaches that produce NOTHING. Most of the $ will go to buying players. Can you imagine LSU with a top HS coach making $200,000 per year and 10 million a year going to buy all the best players, every year. Which approach do you think would produce the best team?
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53447 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:19 am to
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2nd & 10 run habit (61% run, 0.60 yds/play, 10% success) is a drive killer.


This is impossible to wrap our heads around. This is the worst rushing offense in the NCAA.
Posted by Pauvetibete
Member since Apr 2022
1650 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:24 am to
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Throw on first, stop the 2nd-and-10 run habit, diversify money-down answers, add a couple of shot calls


So when do we run? 2nd and short and 3rd and shot?

Isn't that predictable?
Posted by Yeti_Chaser
Member since Nov 2017
11402 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:35 am to
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Slogan’s scheme is fine, in fact I’d say it’s pretty good.

I think it can be good but only in the right situation. It feels like all of his play calling is predetermined, almost scripted. He has no ability to pivot if something isn't working and he refused to adjust and take what the defense was giving him. You can play against the worst run defense or the worst pass defense and the play calling will be the same regardless of matchup.
And it's the same thing with his own personnel. His offense needs a mobile QB but he doesn't have one and refuses to adjust for that. You can still win in cfb today with a pocket passer, but you can't do it in this offensive scheme
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45801 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:44 am to
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The refs kept it close in Oxford. First LSU game I've ever watched and thought the refs were actually all in for LSU.


Removed a pick 6, missed multiple holds AND tick tacky “push” on Weeks that allowed an added to a drive with an additional 50 yards in penalties.
Posted by rpg37
Ocean Springs, MS
Member since Sep 2008
53447 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:48 am to
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Removed a pick 6, missed multiple holds AND tick tacky “push” on Weeks that allowed an added to a drive with an additional 50 yards in penalties.


It was DPI on the pick six. DB could have made a smoother play and gotten the same result but he didn't. Weeks lost composure and gifted a 3rd and 20 with a personal foul. These weren't controversial calls.
Posted by Ebridg3
Baton Rouge, La
Member since Sep 2016
2892 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 10:49 am to
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Let me guess what your winning percentage is with all this? 57%? Say otherwise.


On straight ML bets? No much much higher.

Spread? Sometimes much better sometimes much worse. I dont wager the same amount on every game.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45801 posts
Posted on 9/28/25 at 11:53 am to
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These weren't controversial calls.


We disagree
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