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re: LSU Tiger life between 1958 - 2004

Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:25 pm to
Posted by FreddieMac
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2010
24535 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:25 pm to
My first game I saw on TV with my Dad was the earthquake game. We both lived through Archer and Hallmen years never thinking LSU would win a natty. Been a great 21 years and this will be the start of the next great era.
Posted by truthurtsouch
South East Louisiana
Member since Nov 2016
57 posts
Posted on 10/25/21 at 10:50 pm to
I can never forget that game. My dad was walking us out he got so nervous. LOL I used to fear "heart attack" he would get so worked up. He would physically hurt you (accident) if you were next to him for an exciting play! Grab and squeeze your wrist or arm! Its was worth it to see his joy. We were on a ramp walking out when things erupted and I thought we were really going to be trampled to death by everyone going wild all around us. What a great moment. Its was ear shattering for certain. You had no doubt it was an extreme level of noise. Its disappointing what the young fans have had to put up with the last 2 seasons. Us old coots are used to the ups and downs by now. Lets all pray and think positive the AD and his people make the right pick this time. Someone like a Sean Payton who can put down roots and a winning culture like Nick "Satan."
Posted by TBoy@LSU
Member since Sep 2012
5790 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 6:59 am to
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t wasn’t until 2000 when we went to the Sugar Bowl


After the 2000 we went to the Peach bowl and beat Ga Tech. The Sugar Bowl was following 2001 season against Illinois. Rohan and Josh Reed put on a clinic in the first half.
Posted by MMauler
Primary This RINO Traitor
Member since Jun 2013
22534 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:38 am to
A LOT of people realized what a Sleeping Giant LSU was. The ENTIRE KEY was RECRUITING. In particular, recruiting the state of Louisiana.

All throughout the late 80's and 90's, the few of us who followed recruiting prior to the internet realized how deep and talented the state of Louisiana was. During the Archer and Hallman years, we'd watch every year as LSU might get one or two of the Top 10 players in Louisiana. Other schools would come in and steal all of Louisiana's top talent where these players would go and be vital cogs in their runs to championships. Michigan, Miami, Florida State, Florida, etc. all benefited from Louisiana players.

During those years, the only real way to follow recruiting was to buy a magazine or two (never timely) and to listen to certain recruiting shows on the radio. THAT WAS IT. And, year after year we'd have to hear about all the Louisiana stud being plucked by these other "national" programs.

Meanwhile, it seems like on signing day we'd have to hear on the radio how LSU beat out teams like Tulane, Ole Miss, USM, and NLU for second-rate Louisiana talent. It was disheartening.

I think Dinardo was the first coach we had to realize that we had to build a wall around Louisiana. He started off well but then hired Lou Tepper, became paranoid, and lost all control of the program.

The REASON why Saban came to LSU over other schools that were courting him is because he realized what Louisiana had in talent and what LSU could become with that talent.
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 7:42 am
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92595 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:50 am to
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Charlie Mac couldn’t win the big games, especially Alabama.


Alabama lost 27 SEC games in 25 years under Bryant.

This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 12:57 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
92595 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 12:52 pm to
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Then came Arnsparger who started rebuilding the program and left. Arnsparger made LSU into a modern program.


Also, I love the argument, "Mac couldn't win the big games, but Arns was a great coach."

I liked Arns a lot, but he was 0-3 in bowls. Mac was 7-6 in bowl games, including wins over #4 Texas (1963 Cotton Bowl), Southwestern Conference Champs Arky in the 1966 Cotton Bowl and in the first ever Peach Bowl over FSU.

Mac also did well in the relatively high profile OOC games of the era, splitting the series against Notre Dame and regularly handling aTm, Wisconsin, GA Tech, Miami (FL) etc., when those games made it on the schedule.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20506 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:11 pm to
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I remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football. It just seemed unattainable to me. Then 2003 happened and I have been spoiled by that success ever since.
I'm about to get a little over dramatic/poetic for just a second so forgive me if this sounds cheesy.

When LSU beat Oklahoma in 2003 to win the national championship, it was as if the 20 something years prior to that of being an LSU fan flashed before my eyes when the clock hit 00:00. Getting beat 58-3 by Flordia in Tiger Stadium, Miami destroying us in the rain, the FSU losses, LSU was looked at as a big joke by all the rival SEC fans, the bowl game losses, 50,000 fans in the stands, etc. All of those thoughts flashed before my eyes.

And let's face it, if you're being realistic and not a homer LSU was just simply not on the same level as the Miami's, FSU's, Nebraska's, Michigan's, Notre Dame's, Florida, Bama of the world. We could have put together a nice season with a bowl game but that's about it.

I don't really care for Nick Saban as a person but I am extremely grateful for his arrival and changing all of that. He was the catalyst.
Posted by Genestealer55
ARLINGTON
Member since May 2017
7779 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:21 pm to
Cholly Mac was an incredible coach..he consistently made a competitor out of an undersized less talented team.
Posted by Bryno1960
Off River Road
Member since Aug 2013
2938 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:24 pm to
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I remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football


I remember thinking the same thing growing up during the McClendon era and with those coaches that followed until Saban. The 2003 BCSNC seemed like an impossible dream come true!
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
Member since Oct 2010
68734 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:25 pm to
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We did not really know what we were missing or sitting on all those years


To be fair some teams had a huge recruiting advantage til the late 80's bc they were on TV a ton. I can remember when it was a big deal to have a nationally televised game. So I don't think we were missing out bc a lot of in state talent were going to ND, Miami, FSU, Michigan etc
Posted by Tomherman
Member since Sep 2016
2015 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:47 pm to
Same here. I was I kid in the 80's. Even with the 87 year a national championship seemed so far away
Posted by TDlurker
Member since Oct 2007
689 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 2:54 pm to
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I remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football. It just seemed unattainable to me. Then 2003 happened and I have been spoiled by that success ever since.
This sensation is difficult to describe to people who are either too young to remember the before times, or just old enough to have grown up in the Archer/Hallman/Dinardo years. The nagging sense of denial was multiplied by the fact that in the Mac/Stovall/Arnsparger era, LSU felt like a perennial powerhouse always on the outside looking in. Sure, there were bad seasons, but they were preceded and succeeded by spectacular seasons that showed a glimpse of what LSU could be, if only they could find that one missing ingredient. I remember thinking how lucky my dad was to have lived through 1958, and it was literally one of my life's wishes to see just *one* national championship fall our way before I die. And then Archer/Hallman/Dinardo introduced the sensation of being hopelessly mid-tier, and I came to terms with the reality that it was just never going to happen. And now I've seen three. We are really so fortunate.
Posted by H-Town Tiger
Member since Nov 2003
59992 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 5:59 pm to
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I remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football.


me and a friend were talking about that in 2003, when we were in school i thought we could get hot 1 year and win 6 NCAA Tourney games but would never win in FB because of the system and in fairness under the old MNC we would not have in 2003. Thank God for the BCS
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 6:01 pm
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5956 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 6:06 pm to
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Then 2003 happened


Never seen so many men over 45 with tears in their eyes after a football game. They all had the same thought...it would NEVER happen in their lifetime.
Posted by DenverTigerMan
Denver
Member since Nov 2005
2329 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 6:15 pm to
Correct
Posted by panzer
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
4259 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:02 pm to
I never thought I'd see one either and we've played in 4
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28356 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:04 pm to
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I remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football. It just seemed unattainable to me. Then 2003 happened and I have been spoiled by that success ever since.


Can’t say I was much different. It would so frustrating because men like Charles Alexander were warriors and could have been so much more with different coaching.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17686 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:23 pm to
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LSU was clearly a championship potential school. And that was with an administration committed to running the football program on the cheap. It wasn't until Dinardo and Saban insisted on money being spent (because that was required to win) that part of the culture changed at all.
I too lived through some of that.

I think you touched on it. Players, coaches, and fanbase always thought we were making progress. We had greatness, even as just a flash in the pan, hidden somewhere.

Where the general football world outside the MS river and Sabine river, our own administration, and the "elite" of the fans (I can't think of a better term) seemed to laugh at the idea we'd ever be more than wanna be's and dreamers. It really felt like we were being told every Sat night "well, bless your heart. you tried" as they sort of grinned at you with sad eyes.

It sucked arse.

And therein lies what people like Saban, and yes- Coach Dinardo too, saw. A pent up rage at thinking that our ceiling was not up to us. And that includes the general fanbase.

Saban brought the one thing only an outsider could- to all those who thought "bless your heart" he said frick y'all, you're wrong, I'm right... and I'll prove it to you. From that sprung the idea of "hell yeah, let's prove them all wrong". And when they did, all those who didn't believe jumped on for the ride and never looked back.

And now the bar is still there.
Posted by Arbengal
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2008
3229 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 7:32 pm to
You damn right it is! We will see another. I’m just like you. Dad was at LSU when they won in 58. I dreamed of seeing them win one all those years. Was fortunate enough to procure tickets in 2003 and took my 13 ur old son. I was just petrified we would lose the game, however we prevailed! Dad died when I was young but I looked up at the stars that night and wept. Oh what a night!!!!
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
44201 posts
Posted on 10/26/21 at 8:14 pm to
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remember thinking I would never see an LSU national championship in football.


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