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re: LSU returned 2 linemen with multiple starts and just 3 with any starts- All three got hurt

Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:35 am to
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:35 am to
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And you have Thomas(who I think could prob play RT).


Nooooo
Not a GUARD AT TACKLE
Suuuuuuuuurely this could NEEEEEEEEVER work out.

Also we had our entire “starting” OL vs Bama and they stunk out load.

Charles looked worse than last year.

And it was a cohesion issue. They just got beat by their man 90% of the time.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:40 am to
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can honestly say that I can't imagine saying the above to someone. I have terminal cancer and you know it. Do you really think that what you just posted is ok? Oh sure you'll come up with some excuse but everyone will know that you are pure subhuman garbage.

My post had nothing to do with your cancer. I meant we will be here long after you leave when O fails. You brought your cancer into it and that’s pathetic. I don’t care about you or your cancer enough to post about it. Quit bringing it up to me because I sure didn’t mention it.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:41 am to
Ok I’ve read everything you are saying and I am convinced you are just completely wrong and your point is stupid.

You can be a great college player and not be successful in the NFL.

You can be a great college player and not make it to the NFL.

You can be a mediocre college player and get better in the NFL.

Glen Dorsey didn’t stop being one of the greatest college DTs of all time because he had a middle of the road NFL career.

Justin Vincent wasn’t less than phenomenal his freshmen year because he never did anything after it.

Your premise is stupid. Saying Ciron Black couldn’t play tackle in College is dumb. He did it for 4 years, and generally did it well.
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
173754 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:42 am to
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I meant we will be here long after you leave when O fails

No one believes this
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:47 am to
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No one believes this

okay
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 10:49 am to
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How many les Miles recruits are playing tackle or have played tackle in the nfl successfully?


Strange how the LSU records book is virtually littered with the lack of Miles OL talent.

TD’S BY RUSHING AND PASSING
SEASON
1.
64 (35 rush, 29 pass)
2007

2.
60 (37 rush, 23 pass)
2013

3.
56 (35 rush, 21 pass)
2011

4.
55 (25 rush, 30 pass)
2006

5.
54 (24 rush, 30 pass)
2003

ETA: Point being, forget Bama, Nat Rank, etc, can't CSE and Bebe even crack being better than just one the offenses (2009) of the coach LSU fired (supposedly for lack of offense), even with the same OL troubles you accuse Miles of?
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:00 am
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:16 am to
crickets
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:45 am to
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Nooooo
Not a GUARD AT TACKLE
Suuuuuuuuurely this could NEEEEEEEEVER work out.



You can take josh Malone & I’ll take kardell Stewart, k?
Posted by League Champs
Bayou Self
Member since Oct 2012
10340 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:50 am to
Why is LSU the only team in all of college football that has players with injuries?

And not so rhetorically, why so many injuries?
Posted by Tiger Voodoo
Champs 03 07 09 11(fack) 19!!!
Member since Mar 2007
22120 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:50 am to
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Like I said, 2 guys in the nfl. Whitworth wasn’t a les miles recruit.




I love it when you do this.

Miles is slighted as only winning with NFL talent yet you constantly bring up the lack of NFL talent he had to work with on the OL.

Yet our OL was consistently much better than it has been since he left and we were a feared running team every year outside of 2008 and 2009 when Crowton changed the philosophy that .Miles is so hated for.


And you act as if judging a college coach by how his players do in the NFL means anything.


Answer me this Earl, how would you judge our current HC and DL savant based on the DL he's coached since coming here in 2015 if NFL performance is your bar?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:52 am to
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Point being, forget Bama, Nat Rank, etc, can't CSE and Bebe even crack being better than just one the offenses (2009) of the coach LSU fired (supposedly for lack of offense), even with the same OL troubles you accuse Miles of?


Rebuilding the OL was the biggest undertaking the new staff had. While they’ve worked on adding talented players, they’ve been extremely unlucky this year with injury and suspension. Compare the numbers it makes you feel better.

I don’t think les Miles’ lines Were bad. But in th end his OL evaluations proved to be poor.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 11:54 am to
so are you saying it’s possible for a kid who will never play Tackle in the NFL to be a successful college tackle?

Because you premised a whole argument on the opposite.

Also, at no point did I say Malone was good, or a tackle. I said You have recency bias, and we’re wrong about every other LT to play for Les. Which you are.

How many successful NFL tackles has Saban put in the league from Bama?
This post was edited on 11/7/18 at 11:56 am
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:32 pm to
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Most claimed 7 and 5 or even 6 and 6.


Link them...we'll wait.

You see, the wonderful thing about this forum in most cases is that if you type it out, unless you go back and edit it, it remains to be found.

So...if "most" we claiming 7-5 and 6-6 it'll be super easy for you to link them and call them out.

Otherwise, shut the frick up.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:33 pm to
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I’m sorry to hear that. Had no idea


Nor did I.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:36 pm to
Otherwise GFY.
Posted by GeauxTigerTM
Member since Sep 2006
30596 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:43 pm to
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Otherwise GFY.


All I'm asking is for you to back up your assertion. I know full well what I predicted, and I'm damn sure I could list what many of my fellow outspoken critics listed.

And yet, you suggest it was WAY different. Much worse...

Without even bothering to attempt to prove this assertion, you're simply pulling numbers out of your arse and expecting everyone to go along.

If you could prove this assertion, you would. Since you can't, you deflect.
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
22971 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:45 pm to
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I don’t think les Miles’ lines Were bad. But in th end his OL evaluations proved to be poor.



LSU graded out as the top OL in college football the year before Miles was fired. You don't get to that point if your OL evaluations are poor.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10479 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:47 pm to
Miles took his worst, truly awful 2009 OL, and went 10-2 the next year, then undefeated, beating what many anoint as the best D in Bama history, and played for NC title.
Surely Bebe could find an OC to do nearly as good?
I mean bettering Miles is no big feat?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
290880 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:47 pm to
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And you act as if judging a college coach by how his players do in the NFL means anything.



Nfl success isn’t the end all. It’s 2 part. Where you are drafted generally reflects how you played in college. Suffeededing the in nfl is next level & truly reserved for special players.

quote:

Answer me this Earl, how would you judge our current HC and DL savant based on the DL he's coached since coming here in 2015 if NFL performance is your bar?


I’m trying to think which of his recruits has been draft eligible. Little help here, I’m on mobile
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
79433 posts
Posted on 11/7/18 at 12:49 pm to
Arden Key would probably be the only one.

His first class- Logan Alexander and Lawrence will be elligable this year.
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