Started By
Message

re: LSU Ordered to release unredacted Derrius Guice Police Reports

Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:59 am to
Posted by MintBerry Crunch
Member since Nov 2010
5473 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 7:59 am to
Just use reader mode.
Posted by St Jean The Baptiste
Laredo, TX
Member since Aug 2015
5828 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:27 am to
quote:

The rumor was he dropped because O told them he was “immature”, played video games a lot, etc. but really it may have been this.



Derrius Guice was O's biggest and most important supporter from the locker room when LSU was deciding between Coach O and a new hire. It would be sad if O stabbed Guice in the back after Guice vocally supported O.

You could say Guice had little to do with Coach O getting the LSU gig, but I believe the player's voice did come into consideration when the powers that be chose the head coach.

If Coach O was asked about rape allegations, yes, Coach O should have been truthful about that.

If Coach O said Guice was immature and played video games a lot, after Guice when out of his way to support Coach O when he didn't have to, even if true, I think that is a damn shame.
Posted by lsufan1971
Zachary
Member since Nov 2003
21499 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:41 am to
quote:

Guice when out of his way to support Coach O when he didn't have to, even if true, I think that is a damn shame.


From most of the media that is available Guice is a scum bag that abuses women. I think its a shame you think it's a shame. His NFL team cut him swiftly after his latest incident. He was a second round pick. They basically threw that pick away and you can bet it wasn't because he was innocent.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 8:46 am to
quote:

Why does LSU have those and nobody else does?


LSU's Title IX investigations are not public record. They are internal. So if for example after LSU's Title IX investigation was concluded and the party accused or the party accusing someone of a crime is not happy with the outcome, they could of course take it to court which at that time the all the information would be part of the evidence used in Court.

From what I gathered, Ms. Brennan never filed charges. I assume she wants to see what was included in the Police Report for her own records to show that the "Redacted person" is Guice.

All LSU internal records are covered under FERPA and other laws concerning privacy.
This post was edited on 1/6/21 at 11:33 am
Posted by udtiger
Over your left shoulder
Member since Nov 2006
107800 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:07 am to
quote:

signed Dec. 29, Baton Rouge District Judge Janice Clark


Good fricking riddance!
Posted by Tall Tiger
Golden Rectangle
Member since Sep 2007
3796 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:10 am to
Must be weird for that plaintiff lawyer to go so hard against his own alma mater.
Posted by brewhan davey
Audubon Place
Member since Sep 2010
33084 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 9:13 am to
quote:

In a ruling signed Dec. 29, Baton Rouge District Judge Janice Clark


This was probably her last ruling ever, as her final term expired at the end of the year.
Posted by JodyPlauche
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2009
9590 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

Whether sending a naked picture without consent is criminal I don’t know


It is!
Posted by Breauxsif
Member since May 2012
22291 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:14 pm to
With all these allegations coming to light, it proves Guice is a deranged sociopath.
Posted by MJforPrez
Member since Dec 2020
445 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

It is!


I don’t think that’s true.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

I don’t think that’s true.


I think in Louisiana this is potentially 2 years in jail and up to $10,000 in fines. That is the maximum if convicted. So what Guice did is definitely a Title IX violation. Now if the information was in the Police reports, why he was not charged with a crime is the question. Is that LSU's job to file charges? I don't think it is.

So it seems LSU did investigate the matter and it got reported to the LSU PD. Why the BRPD or EBR Sherriff's Department and local DA (which at the time I think was Hillar Moore?) were not involved is the question?
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
1185 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:33 pm to
Now it is in louisiana to share elicit pictures of someone without their permission. But, that law was passed in July of 2016. All the article says is that incident took place in 2016, whether it being illegal when Guice did it would depend on when in 2016 the incident took place. At least that's what I am understanding.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
5418 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:35 pm to
quote:

The advocate should be doing anything but picking a fight with LSU.


the victim and USA Today are suing LSU. Not the Advocate.
Posted by r0cky1
Member since Oct 2020
4063 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:35 pm to
I am still waiting for Ryan Clark or any football player/Journalist that trashed O for "botching the march" to condemn Guice. Funny how that works
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:36 pm to
quote:

Now it is in louisiana to share elicit pictures of someone without their permission. But, that law was passed in July of 2016. All the article says is that incident took place in 2016, whether it being illegal when Guice did it would depend on when in 2016 the incident took place. At least that's what I am understanding.



Good information, I wasn't aware the Law was passed in 2016.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75683 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:37 pm to
quote:

The advocate should be doing anything but picking a fight with LSU.


It’s not picking a fight with LSU. It’s doing the right fricking thing.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:48 pm to
quote:

the victim and USA Today are suing LSU. Not the Advocate.


What is she suing for, the right to see her Police Report from LSU PD?

As for this entire process, Reporting Sexual misconduct at LSU does not have to be reported to the Title IX Coordinator. LSU's official PM-73 (System Polcy) states:

REPORTING MISCONDUCT
1. LSU strongly urges prompt reporting of any incidence of Sexual Misconduct.
Complaints may be reported to:
• LSU Title IX Coordinator, Title IX Campus Coordinator or Deputy Coordinator
• Office of Student Advocacy and Accountability or Dean of Students
• Office of Human Resource Management
• Campus police department
• Confidential survivor support services on campus (The Lighthouse Program,
Confidential Advisors, etc)
• Or any other Responsible Employee
• Online at respective campus TIX webpages

Now if the complainant reports to some other party other than the Title IX Coordinator, the Title IX Coordinator will handle do an investigation but it is as PM-73 states, the individuals are strongly encouraged to report the offense to campus police if they believe criminal conduct occurred.

So once misconduct is reported to Title IX coordinator or some other party defined above, it is the Complainant who decided to file a formal complaint. Very rarely (very limited circumstances) will LSU' TItle IX coordinator file a formal complaint if the Complainant decided not to.

So I assume it was the young Woman who filed the Formal complaint that LSU PD investigated, either she went to LSU PD, or this was a limited case where LSU'S Title IX got LSU PD involved (which is again not likely, that is usually the Complainant's responsibility).

So what exactly did LSU's Title IX people do wrong here?

If it got to LSU PD, and no charges were filed, then did the young Lady decide not to press charges?

With all that said, Guice is a POS, but I am not seeing what LSU's Title IX folks did wrong here.


Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 12:54 pm to
quote:

I don’t really give a shite about protecting Guice’s privacy at this point, but I do question whether this sets a good precedent.

My understanding is that LSUPD are technically operate under the mandate of Louisiana State Police. Therefore, it would seem to me that they should be required to follow the same criteria for releasing police reports to the victims as state police. If they didn’t and were unduly influenced by the university, no matter who pays them, then that’s a huge fricking problem.

The university is bound by FERPA to protect student records. It is none of the university’s business to affect police/criminal procedures.
Posted by JKChesterton
Member since Dec 2012
4096 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:11 pm to
quote:

My understanding is that LSUPD are technically operate under the mandate of Louisiana State Police. Therefore, it would seem to me that they should be required to follow the same criteria for releasing police reports to the victims as state police. If they didn’t and were unduly influenced by the university, no matter who pays them, then that’s a huge fricking problem.

The university is bound by FERPA to protect student records. It is none of the university’s business to affect police/criminal procedures.


So is an LSU PD problem, it seems Ms. Brennan reported it to Sharon Lewis and Miriam Segar. Segar suggested she file a Police Report, which is recommended by LSU PM-73. Now, why the LSU PD did not contact the Title IX Coordinator or Lewis and Segar did not notify the Title IX Coordinator is not in line with LSU's Policy, but they did go to the Police!

Posted by Adajax
Member since Nov 2015
7423 posts
Posted on 1/6/21 at 1:12 pm to
So the report was made by LSU police and not BRPD?
first pageprev pagePage 2 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram