re: LSU MBB vs UNO: Tigers WIN 86-70, improve to 10-2 overall and remain UNDEFEATED at home

I remember Brady talking about his mellowing out when he first started calling games for us. He’s definitely different now. You’re right about Wade and I don’t think people realized how special he was when we had him. To be able to turn it around so quickly and to elevate the team that much all on his own, without the support it normally takes to do that is pretty incredible.

but but but......"the big time".............."we are building something here".

This team will finish near the bottom of the SEC....and the fans aren't coming out for this....

It is dumb.....

look it up it's marketing material that the LSU men's basketball team is trying to use...you know similar to "boot up" the slogan Will Wade started....now the LSU team is still using boot up along with "big time".

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There is a literal 0% chance a 5-13 SEC team makes the NCAAT short of winning the conference tournament.

There's probably a 0.1% chance a 6-12 SEC teams makes the NCAAT again short of winning the SECT.

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I agree. I would say 7-11 is the absolute minimum.

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I think we have to get past this mentality, and I don't mean that as a slight, I don't think your take is wrong per se. I know the conference is historically good, but I'm not sure I ever want to go into a conference slate with the mindset that 5 wins if fine as long as we're competitive. I don't think CMM is saying that either, but part of the problem our fan base had become ambivalent Re: hoops and 5 wins ain't all that big a deal outside our little 40-50 man bubble that talks about hoops here. This is year 3.

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I’m not suggesting that I would be happy going 5-13, but I’m just saying that it is realistic that a top 64 team wouldn’t win more than 5 games. If all of the losses are to teams in the tournament and if a couple of the wins are to teams in the tournament, then I think our NET will still be high, as long as the losses are close. If we have a NET close to 50, then we should still get in. I hope they do better, but every team in the SEC is currently in the top 64! South Carolina is the worst at 64. Is it possible the entire conference makes the tournament if the top 64 teams are supposed to make it?

Your logic is terribly flawed.

First, it’s not the simply the “top 64” teams that make the NCAA Tournament (which actually has 68 teams). Otherwise, very few mid-majors would ever make the tournament. There are 32 automatic qualifiers and 36 at large teams. A 16-15 (5-13) LSU team has ZERO shot of getting one of the 36 at large spots. I don’t care how good the SEC is. That type of record, at best, puts LSU somewhere in the 60’s of the NET rankings (likely lower). Best case scenario that record gets LSU a NIT bid…best case scenario. Most teams in the 40’s of the NET won’t make the tournament.

LSU currently sits at 62 in the NET. That number is not going to improve by losing 13 games…no matter how close. Plus, good wins get you in the tournament, not a ton of close losses. Unfortunately, LSU doesn’t have any “good” wins now because Florida St, UCF, and, especially, Kansas St are really struggling.

I’m all for optimism, but its has to be based at least somewhat in reality

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Your logic is terribly flawed. First, it’s not the simply the “top 64” teams that make the NCAA Tournament (which actually has 68 teams). Otherwise, very few mid-majors would ever make the tournament. There are 32 automatic qualifiers and 36 at large teams. A 16-15 (5-13) LSU team has ZERO shot of getting one of the 36 at large spots. I don’t care how good the SEC is. That type of record, at best, puts LSU somewhere in the 60’s of the NET rankings (likely lower). Best case scenario that record gets LSU a NIT bid…best case scenario. Most teams in the 40’s of the NET won’t make the tournament. LSU currently sits at 62 in the NET. That number is not going to improve by losing 13 games…no matter how close. Plus, good wins get you in the tournament, not a ton of close losses. Unfortunately, LSU doesn’t have any “good” wins now because Florida St, UCF, and, especially, Kansas St are really struggling. I’m all for optimism, but its has to be based at least somewhat in reality

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I think you’re wrong in your logic. The hypothetical was if the entire SEC was in the top 25, then I think a 0 win team could still make the tournament. I didn’t say a 0 win team would make it based on the actual current rankings, because the entire SEC isn’t in the top 25, but half of it is, and all are in the top 65. Therefore I contend that it will take fewer wins to get in than any normal year. That number could be 5 wins, assuming the losses are not blowouts, because that would give us 5 good wins I know some lower NET teams will get in, to round out the top 68, so not all top 50 get in, but practically every top 50 NET team gets in. The last time I check yesterday, LSU was at 53 and still there as of 8am on 12/24. Only Vandy at 56 and Sourh Carolina at 65 are lower and would most likely miss the tournament. As of today, I think LSU would not get in, but if they were to get those 5 good wins, they would move up and likely get in. The SEC could get 15 or more teams in this year! It’s wrong to get stuck on a traditional number of wins, because the conference is too good this year.

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