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re: LSU is not a rebuild. LSU hired O to avoid a rebuild.

Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:53 pm to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48015 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:53 pm to
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I'll say it for you Rick. Orgeron is ruining the program. He's a bad coach. He's a bad recruiter. Welcome to Dinardo days.




Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66283 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 10:56 pm to
Lol first of all it was Rita not Katrina that hit before the game. Secondky we were up 21 to a 3-8 team in the 4th quarter so I guess the effects, which were minimal in BR, of the storm only decided to cause us trouble after 3 quarters. Lmao pathetic is exactly right
This post was edited on 9/19/17 at 11:06 pm
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:02 pm to
Your upvote/Downvote totals gives me hope for this fan base.

Its obvious the CheeriOs are few, just really loud
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:12 pm to
Alleva bought into the belief that lsu recruits itself and a monkey could lead us to 10 wins.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
37113 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:23 pm to
Going into the season my biggest fear was Orgeron wasn't the right guy, but his assistant coaches were good and his players talented enough (in a terrible SEC & with four rent-a-wins) to win 8 or 9 games.

That could still happen. But the idea that LSU could go 3-5 in a really down SEC West and refuse to fire him is just not the deal that was promised.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465923 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
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and i know more football than anyone youve ever shook hands with

i've exchanged a hand shake with none other than Les Miles

SUP NOW RICK DADYY ?!?!?!?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465923 posts
Posted on 9/19/17 at 11:44 pm to
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Did you react this way after the Tennessee game in 05? Miles first 3 games were worse than Os did you give up on him after that game?

pretty much
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
22880 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:02 am to
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Lol first of all it was Rita not Katrina that hit before the game. Secondky we were up 21 to a 3-8 team in the 4th quarter so I guess the effects, which were minimal in BR, of the storm only decided to cause us trouble after 3 quarters. Lmao pathetic is exactly right
Hmmm, let's see here, any comparison of Miles and Orgeron's 1st 3 games.

Miles- he had BOTH Katrina and Rita to deal with. Remember all the family staying in player's dorms and apartments?

Miles- North Texas and Arizona St, if I remember. Arizona St was ranked, as I recall (mid teens I think), and it was supposed to be a home game. Got moved to Arizona.

We won that game anyway.

Tennessee- moved to Monday night, and we were up at the half before things collapsed.

If you think Rita hitting a month after Katrina did had "minimal effects" in Baton Rouge, you're a fricking idiot. A clueless jackass.

O's first 3 this year- we overmatched a lifeless BYU that's starting to look bad, they just lost at home to Wisconsin 40-6. Overmatched a bad UT-Chattanooga team that was able to move on our D at times. Racked up a ton of penalties along the way, but hey it's a learning process.
Then proceeded to get beat in every facet of the game by a Miss State team that was unranked, and lost 7 games last year. A team almost everyone had written in as a W, the "test" was supposed to be if we looked sloppy or clean in the win. Afterwards, the head coach stated he didn't know why we sat our All American RB in the second half, he'd have to ask the assistant coach.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:02 am to
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What makes me sick is we could be Reauxing the Beauxt right now.


The is still hope for the future my man. 2 good years at Minnesota will have him ready to jump to the next level. I can't wait
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115583 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:22 am to
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I didn't ask for you to make excuses about it you don't allow excuses when they're about O so leave them out of it. Did you want Miles canned after the Tennessee game? Did you believe the season was over and the program was headed for ruin like your saying now? How is Miles 2-1 start different than Os 2-1 start? You do realize there's no difference aside from the fact that Miles didn't actually earn his first win it was given to us by the refs. This post was edited on 9/19 at 10:43 pm


If O is the exact same as Miles, why did we fire miles?
Posted by wildtigercat93
Member since Jul 2011
115583 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:37 am to
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You shite your pants as a baby. Should that be held against you? Now if you shite your pants now...


So why didn't we consider Charlie Weiss, Houston Nutt, Charlie Strong, or Gene Chisick. All of those guys have a better resume than O but failed at previous jobs. Why does O get to say he learned from mistakes but no one else does?


And the scariest thing about Saturday is we lost in the exact same fashion as O lost at Ole miss. Sloppy, unmatched, undermanned. So how exactly did he learn from his mistakes? He seems to just be repeating them.

It's amazing to me that everyone wants to ignore 30 games of a sample size to promote O, but will take down other coaches for one singular game, such as Mike gundy who many didn't want here because he lost to ISU in 2011. It's so fricking contradictory.

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Bringing up the Ole Miss debacle from a decade ago is stagnant as frick. If that were his last coaching performance- fine, but it wasn't


He didn't exactly set the world on fire as an interim coach and there is a huge difference in being an interim and actually running a A program. There's a reason no one would hire him full time. He lost last Saturday in the exact fashion that he lost at Ole miss, where do you see room for hope in his regime?

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If he shits the bed, then he can hit the road.


So that's where we are as a program? Just hiring unqualified Guiny pigs and hoping one of them works out and "changes" and if it doesn't we will pay another 12 million dollar buyout?

I could buy into your "if he sucks well just fire him" theory, except we gave him the exact same buyout that we gave fricking Miles and he had absolutely NO LEVERAGE. Our AD is tied to the hip with the coach, and our fans will make any excuse to cover for their Cajun folk hero. They will give him chance after chance to run this program into the ground before they make a move.

Posted by Relham10
Ridge
Member since Jan 2013
19964 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:40 am to
Have an upvote
Posted by nvasil1
Hellinois
Member since Oct 2009
17435 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:51 am to
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The is still hope for the future my man. 2 good years at Minnesota will have him ready to jump to the next level. I can't wait

I'm not saying he would never take a bigger job, but I think it's going to be tougher to get him away from Minnesota than most people believe. He's considers the program a sleeping giant where he can win championships.
Posted by burke985
UGANDA
Member since Aug 2011
28370 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:52 am to
Bottom line is the "coaching search" was a complete joke and Alleva and Alexander should have been shown the door for their putrid efforts to find LSUs biggest money maker a competent replacement for the fired winningest HC the university has ever had. A fricking retard has more sense than Alleva and Alexander combined. This is why people make fun of us
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 12:59 am to
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Oh and forgot Ohio State. Went 6-7, hired new coach, went undefeated. Again, programs like that shouldn't rebuild. They get too much talent.


Les' last 4 classes averaged rank 4th. That is tied with Ohio state and FSU for the 2nd best avg.

I bet they are not expecting a rebuild.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66283 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:02 am to
Well I was in BR for both storms and we never even lost electricity jackass. And how convenient to ignore the fact we were up 21 in the 4th quarter I guess the storm only effected that last quarter and didn't bother us the first 3. Once again you pathetic losers continue to add paragraph after paragraph of context and excuses for Miles but allow zero for O. In case you don't realize this which apparently you don't that's the definition of double standard comparisons. I'm not bashing Miles or defending O I'm giving you an example of both coaches in the same identicle situation, a 2-1 record with the loss being a horrific loss, and you're exposing yourselves by treating one situation totally different from the other. You idiots have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that your reaction to Saturday night was 100% biased and solely based on the fact that you don't like coach O and pull for him to lose. You're a bunch of two faced fans.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 1:13 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66283 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:04 am to
Try reading comp classes you need em.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29856 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:04 am to
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A coach has never gotten better with more experience


No coach in the history of college football has started with a 3 year record as bad as O's...and gone on to win an NC at any point in their future.

So yeah, coaches can go from and to good, or good to great...but no one goes from horrendous to elite.

It just doesnt happen. And you can't fine an example of it either, so don't waste your time.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
34324 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:05 am to
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my how the narrative has switched in just 11 months.

miles was fired for underachieving with all this talent and just 11 months later we are so depleted of talent that even Saban couldnt win here.


fricking laughable


Miles wasn't fired for underachieving given his talent. He was fired for underachieving given the expectations of the LSU fanbase and administration. These are different things. Stop chasing your own tail.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
66283 posts
Posted on 9/20/17 at 1:07 am to
He was fired for continuously lying to his bosses.
This post was edited on 9/20/17 at 1:08 am
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