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re: LSU Hitting Stats Thru 4 Games

Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:57 am to
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:57 am to
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Not sure what point you are trying to make, because that .312 definitely looks like the anomaly of the bunch compared to prior years.



That OPB isn't as valuable leaguewide as it once was. The overall trend for the last 20-30 years is down. The trend for homers and k's is up even when looking back at the steroid years. What does that tell you about the overall trend baseball has been moving in?


Do you still need to get on base? Yes.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 10:57 am to
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Meh, we saw Pearson be one of our better hitters in the postseason.


3 for 26 in CWS
2 for 7 in Supers
4 for 11 in Regionals


We remember his big hits. But 9 for 44 ain’t that great. In fact, it’s batting .204
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:00 am to
On that we can agree
Posted by bradygolf98
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:00 am to
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He can be a menace in other ways as well as playing a ++ CF

LSU baseball data on twitter posted the stats on his diving/sliding catch in CF. The route efficiency was 98.9%. Some pretty cool numbers. Almost a perfect route right to the ball

Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:01 am to
I forgot we are in 24, I checked 21 for reference. Even still, not a huge fluctuation from other years.

Pitching is better, players are throwing harder. There is less contact overall.


Teams still value what they were chasing over the moneyball principle
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:02 am to
20.2 while not looking straight ahead is wild
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:03 am to
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The trend for homers and k's is up even when looking back at the steroid years


Do avg FB velocity from 20yrs ago now lol
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:05 am to
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Pitching is better, players are throwing harder. There is less contact overall.


Teams still value what they were chasing over the moneyball principle



This doesn't square with homer average being up while contact is down. The quality of the overall contact is suffering chasing homers. Singles and doubles are down since 2000 while homers are up 20% ish (against when everyone was on roids).
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:07 am to
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This doesn't square with homer average being up


The baseballs have changed too.

Still not sure if your point
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:08 am to
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Do avg FB velocity from 20yrs ago now lol



They've changed the way it was measured in that timespan. Velocity has gone up for sure, but at least some of it is attributed to measurement.


I would bet the dip in average has more to do with breaking pitches
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:10 am to
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The baseballs have changed too.

Still not sure if your point



So 2 types of hit will suffer from a change in ball but will have a dramatic increase on another over the same timespan that launch angles became vernacular in baseball?


Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:17 am to
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I know we have NIU and Stony Brook coming in this weekend, but weirdly they aren't playing each other.

We also have Northwestern State coming in and getting 4 games this weekend against NIU and Stony Brook, but not playing LSU.

One of the weirder setups for a weekend I've seen.


Jay said this will be the last year of these type of tournaments
Posted by HC87
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:19 am to
Really GOOD mix of contributions from veterans (includes transfers), soph's with more experience, and new freshmen. Gotta think Pearson and Kling will get it going. Hope Braswell can contribute too (not sure what we have defensively at SS behind him).
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:19 am to
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That OPB isn't as valuable leaguewide as it once was.


If OBP leaguewide has gone down, doesn't that make a high-OBP player more valuable, not less?

I'm really struggling to think of a situation where a coach is like, "oh that guy gets on base a lot. that's not what we're looking for here."
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:20 am to
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Jay said this will be the last year of these type of tournaments


I'm okay with that. It's got to be taxing on the facilities folks.

I do think he was referencing the 4 game thing more than the multi opponent thing though.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:21 am to
Launch angle is just a measure of data, no different then MPH
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:21 am to
I was told this weekend that next year we're playing in the Frisco tournament and will have a midweek with Dallas Baptist while we're up there.
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Member since May 2007
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:23 am to
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I was told this weekend that next year we're playing in the Frisco tournament and will have a midweek with Dallas Baptist while we're up there.


frick yeah
Posted by DRock88
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:24 am to
That's awesome
Posted by Thib-a-doe Tiger
Member since Nov 2012
36273 posts
Posted on 2/20/24 at 11:31 am to
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If OBP leaguewide has gone down, doesn't that make a high-OBP player more valuable, not less?

I'm really struggling to think of a situation where a coach is like, "oh that guy gets on base a lot. that's not what we're looking for here."




You've got to string a few different stats together to see the story. Homers are up, K's are up, walks are essentially where they were 20 years ago (IBB are down).


Yes getting on base is good, but that isn't what teams are focusing on now. Can you drive the ball to drive in runs?

If Schwarber was hitting singles instead of homers he would've been benched long ago
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