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re: LSU has a walks problem. Here's why its been an issue for Jay Johnson's staff.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:21 am to Lester Earl
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:21 am to Lester Earl
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It’s not sarcasm. He is a genuine idiot like yourself
Know nothing about his IQ, but he was being sarcastic.
As you know, when you are recruiting the talent that has the "stuff" from smaller stages, you're probably gonna get the extra mph and spin rate, but with that comes less control, esp in the beginning.
Also, as I know you are aware, just let it play out. Give these kids a chance to gain some time on the mound.
And try not to play ping pong with all the knee jerks on here.
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Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:28 am to wahoocs
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Give these kids a chance to gain some time on the mound.
Not like my opinion means anything but I think experience is the biggest issue here. Also I think everyone is thinking about Schmidt, Rizy and Ware here in this conversation. It would make a drastic difference if just one of these guys could step it up and get a little better command.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:35 am to Future Islands
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there’s just been no development at all.
Of the high ceiling guys - and I think that’s where our frustration lies - it’s fair to say that only moffet was developing. Dutton and Bucknam’s success elsewhere was hard to predict. Combined it’s not a good look
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:48 am to Future Islands
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Auburn take Sam Dutton and turn him into an effective weekend starter…
That article also talked about how much the pitchers improved last season under Yeskie but that guy didn’t post it. Typical preacher trick by not posting the part of the martial that was most important and optimistic.
They are 5th in the nation in Ks and 7th in Ks per 9 innings. That is an important stat to track since they can make people miss when they execute.
The pitching staff’s consistency with Jump, Dutton and Hurd last season was remarkable by the end. That’s learning includes Anderson in the K’s in his last 4 innings.
Some of you just have a hard on for Yeskie for whatever reason and he is not the issue.
Stop with the bull crap and look at the pitchers he has developed and even just last year.
PITCHING WAS NOT THE ISSUE IN A 4-3 10 inning loss in NC last season.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:50 am to Major Dutch Schaefer
Why didn’t you post the most important part of that article on improvement last season? Being 5th currently in Ks and 7th in Ks per 9?
We know why. You’re just another troll.
We know why. You’re just another troll.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:51 am to hashtag
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I don't think the walk issue is as big of an issue as how many times we get to 2 strikes and can't get an out. Yeskie has the guys throwing stuff all over the place trying to get the batters to chase. And then they get in trouble, throw some crap right over the plate and guys hit us hard.
This is a big problem. If we get 0-2 or 1-2, the next pitch is almost guaranteed to be off the plate. Teams know this and just watch it go by. Often, the next pitch is well.
That works well in high school, but SEC hitters are SEC hitters because they don't chase stupid pitches.
If you get 0-2, be aggressive. At least make the pitch close enough that the batter is compelled to swing.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:51 am to hashtag
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This is the 2nd year in a row that our bullpen is having the exact same problem, with completely different pitchers. It doesn't really seem fair to blame the bullpen pitchers every year and give Yeskie a pass.
I get that line of thinking but we also have a bullpen with few players who have significant innings before this year in SEC play. Many have few innings or even no innings at all at the college level. And I believe most (maybe all) of the pitchers have improved their Ks/9 innings.
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I don't think the walk issue is as big of an issue as how many times we get to 2 strikes and can't get an out. Yeskie has the guys throwing stuff all over the place trying to get the batters to chase.
If you are not trying to touch the edges and get guys to chase up 0-2 on a batter, you are not doing your job right. In fact, not doing that is how you get meatballs over the plate up 0-2. It's up to the pitcher/catcher battery to understand the zone the Ump is giving them and try to locate the ball where the batter will swing at a ball because it is too close to take it with 2 strikes of grove it just inside the strike zone for that ump.
I'm sure Yeskie could do a better job but I also do not think he is doing a horrible job.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 8:58 am to Mobiletiggah
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If you watch closely, it’s not the ability of the pitchers we have to make various pitches at various speeds. This part is mostly coaching. It’s not the locations called either. It’s the execution part (throwing these variable pitches) for strikes early in the count that is absolutely where we err.
The catcher tells us that these guys, when they get into trouble, are not hitting their locations.
Behind in the count equals, walks and high stress at bats that leads to fatigue, more mental than physical.
That execution part is not as coachable. Pitchers gotta pitch.
yall do understand the average miss in the MLB is 12", closer to 16" in college, higher for HS
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Four-Seamer: 12.7 inches
Sinker: 11.7 inches
Cutter: 11.4 inches
Slider: 11.7 inches
Curve: 13.0 inches
Change: 11.4 inches
but hey....its a failure to hit spots right?
or maybe, do what MLB teams are doing now and understanding the data and how to train for it and how to call pitches based off the specific pitchers data. if Shores avg miss is 16", call the damn thing down the middle and let the variability of location help you instead of trying to dot the outside black and then missing 3" outside
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:05 am to mdomingue
quote:I think Yeskie does a pretty good job overall in developing pitchers. I don't think he's very good at calling pitches on game day. It's almost like he just calls pitches based off of what he thinks the best version of the pitcher is. And if they don't rise to meet that, he makes no adjustments during the game.
I'm sure Yeskie could do a better job but I also do not think he is doing a horrible job.
He obviously does a good job at developing the guys and helping them improve over the course of the season. It would just be nice if he was better at calling pitches to match where the guys currently are, versus where he thinks they should be.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:08 am to lsu777
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if Shores avg miss is 16", call the damn thing down the middle and let the variability of location help you instead of trying to dot the outside black and then missing 3" outside
And you know that he isn’t doing EXACTLY that? Just keep spewing shite you can’t possibly know unless you are one of 4 people:
Shores
Hernandez (or a sub)
Yeskie
Jay Johnson.
Some of you live in a freaking fantasy land and just want to dump on something you haven’t a clue or can prove. You just come on here to shite on players and coaches.
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 9:21 am
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:09 am to hashtag
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I don't think he's very good at calling pitches on game day.
You don’t know or can prove that.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:11 am to BayouPride
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Dutton and Bucknam’s success elsewhere was hard to predict.
Dutton was CLEARLY better at the end of the season - look at NC series. That article was spot on where it stated that exact point.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:11 am to Tiger1988
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You don’t know or can prove that.
Okay. Here's what I do know. Yeskie is the pitching coach. Ultimately, whatever we see on the mound is his responsibility. We know he calls the pitches.
Yeskie gets credit for improving the pitching as the season goes on, like he did yesterday. He also gets blame for the shite show we see from the relievers right now (and early in the season last year).
The rest is my opinion based on watching the past 1.5 seasons and my experience playing college and minor league baseball. But, what do I know?
This post was edited on 3/27/25 at 9:20 am
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:12 am to GumboPot
I think the pitching is actually fine except the one game against Texas, if we keep up this pace and finish with 18-20 conference wins it will all be forgotten, Then in the post season you just roll with the hottest hands.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:14 am to Future Islands
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:15 am to deathvalleytiger10
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At least make the pitch close enough that the batter is compelled to swing.
They are simply missing spots. Shores can’t consistently command high strike zone pitches yet particularly in the hands. He MUST command that pitch because his fastball simply is flat.
His slider fall off when he isn’t following through and pulling it. That is why it is a foot from where it is being called.
I would tell him and others to lay off the max effort shite because that is what is happening at times. A good pitcher loses command throwing as hard as they can. This isn’t the MLB.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:16 am to Lester Earl
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It’s not sarcasm. He is a genuine idiot like yourself
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Yeskie just doesn't have good pitchers to work with. #1 portal class of pitchers. Top ranked high school pitcher in back to back years. He's doing the best he can with limited talent.
C'mon idiot. He mentions we have the #1 portal class and the top ranked high school pitcher in back to back years AND you don't think its sarcasm when he says its not Yeskie, its a talent issue. Again, google sarcasm. If the definition is too difficult for you to understand, I'll try and dumb it down for you.
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:18 am to hashtag
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um...
And
You think a pitch isn’t being called as a competitive pitch? Then you’re just a dumbass
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:21 am to Tiger1988
quote:I think he's calling pitches based on what he thinks they should be able to do, not on what they're capable of doing with their current level of experience and actual play on the field.
You think a pitch isn’t being called as a competitive pitch? Then you’re just a dumbass
Posted on 3/27/25 at 9:22 am to hashtag
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I think he's calling pitches based on what he thinks they should be able to do, not on what they're capable of doing with their current level of experience and actual play on the field.
Lololol are freaking kidding? HE SEES WHAT THEY ARE CAPABLE OF DOING ALL YEAR MORON.
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