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re: Lsu beating k state tomorrow?

Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:03 pm to
Posted by Cadello
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:03 pm to
Baseball?
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:04 pm to
Apparently one of their best players, Cam Carter is from East Ascension HS, but ended up at Oak Hill Prep in Va.


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Was an honorable mention All-State selection at East Ascension by the Louisiana Sports Writers Association in 2019-20… Member of the First Team All-District 5-5A and First Team All-Parish squads.
Coached by Steve Smith (Oak Hill Academy) and Tyler Turner (East Ascension).




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Held offers out of high school from Georgetown, Ole Miss, Mississippi State and Virginia Tech before choosing the Bulldogs over the Hokies… Picked K-State over LSU.
Played on the AAU circuit for the New Orleans Elite coached by Colby Lewis.


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This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 8:09 pm
Posted by newmexicotiger
Member since Sep 2017
2308 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:23 pm to
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K State went Elite Eight last year. What changed?


They lost 4 starters that were averaging a combined 55 points/game.
Now they start 3 guys averaging 16 pts/game and McMeh will be their 4th best asset on the floor. They have nothing beyond that. Those 4 are going to present a challenge for the Tigers.
They are not a deep team at all. McMeh will be the difference over the final 8 minutes. Edge Kansas St.
Posted by The Truth 34
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Member since May 2010
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:40 pm to
Their last 3 games have gone to OT, and they’ve won them all. Maybe Vegas thinks they’re tired.
Posted by LaBR4
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2005
50742 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 8:47 pm to
Shite, we should've locked them out. We should have said, sorry, you'll get plenty of shots up tomorrow, it's locked up for the evening.

This post was edited on 12/8/23 at 8:48 pm
Posted by lsu4life77
Member since Jun 2010
988 posts
Posted on 12/8/23 at 9:05 pm to
Never beat against the opposition this year!!
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:08 pm to
Mc's team has struggled this year against the worst teams in America. I can't believe anyone thinks a team which eked out a win v Southeastern and lost to *gasp* NICHOLLS could be favored over any P5 team, even a subpar one.
Posted by Alt26
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:15 pm to
No sport has a bigger home field/home court advantage than college basketball. Unexpected home wins happen all the time.

Would I be surprised if LSU wins tomorrow? No. But McMahon, who is 5-19 vs power conf opponents (3-19 when not playing Wake Forest) long lost the benefit of the doubt from me. So I’m not expecting LSU to win tomorrow
Posted by lsumailman61
Gulf Shores
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Posted on 12/8/23 at 10:28 pm to
That line is fishy as heck. K St by 10.
Posted by GeorgeWest
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2013
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 12:48 am to
K State's best player was kicked out of school last week. Crowd protested against the univ President who made that decision.
Posted by Mats86
Member since Mar 2021
3578 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 12:49 am to
That is odd. ESPN’s matchup prediction has LSU with a 55% chance. It seems occasionally they go cold from 3 like us. Their guard play is better with Perry for sure. They might be what we would like with cook. I really don’t see why they consider us so close. But we’ll see in 12 hours
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 1:27 am to
Would be pretty cool to win
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 5:44 am to
It would. On another note, how the frick did efton reid get a waiver to play before jalen cook? Backwards arse ncaa
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 6:03 am to
In on k state ML @+128 for 3.5 u
Posted by ArcticTiger
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Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:20 am to
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Posted by bayou39
Member since Nov 2012
626 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 8:32 am to
LINK

“ LSU has played two games since Nov. 28, losing to Syracuse on that Tuesday and beating Southeastern Louisiana on Dec. 1.

Matt McMahon and Co. haven’t played in eight days, spending that time game-planning and resting for this important home opportunity against Kansas State.

During that same Nov. 28-to-now timeframe, Kansas State has played three consecutive overtime games and somehow swept them, making Jerome Tang 9-0 in overtime periods as head coach of the Wildcats.

All three wins came at home. Two came against lowly mid-major competition in Oral Roberts and North Alabama. One came against a Villanova squad that lost Justin Moore to injury in the first half. And two needed a miracle late-game step-back 3 by Tylor Perry to extend or finish the game.

I’m guessing the Wildcats are exhausted and running on fumes. They’re now getting ready to leave Manhattan for the first time in 19 days for a trip to the Bayou, where the Tigers boast a top-30 home-court advantage, and now, an incomprehensibly large rest advantage.

Not only are the Wildcats tired, but they’re overvalued.

I just don’t think Kansas State has looked that good. Five of its seven wins have come against sub-130 KenPom teams. In four games against KenPom top-50 teams, the Wildcats lost by 13 to USC and eight to Miami, then needed miracle overtime victories to down Providence and Villanova.

Four of Kansas State’s seven wins have come in overtime. That’s absurd, and the Cats are due for close-game regression.

LSU has a terrible loss on its resume at home against Nicholls, but it’s also posted KenPom top-80 wins over North Texas and Wake Forest, while only losing to KenPom No. 53 Dayton by three.

People are down on LSU, but I’d argue the Tigers look better than Kansas State.

Hey, I bet we’d all be looking at Tang’s team in a different light if a few balls bounced the other way in the past two weeks, resulting in two KenPom sub-150 losses.

The ShotQualityBets’ model seems to agree, pegging LSU as a seven-point home favorite over Kansas State on Saturday.


Photo by Gregory Fisher/Icon Sportswire via Getty Images. Pictured: Mike Williams III (LSU)
From an on-court matchup perspective, the Tigers have two key advantages.

First, the Tigers pressure ball-handlers and force turnovers, turning defense into transition offense. Jordan Wright, Mike Williams III and Tyrell Ward are averaging a combined 5.5 steals per game, and the Tigers are scoring over 10 transition points per game.

Conversely, the Wildcats rank 262nd nationally in offensive turnover rate, 359th in PPP against press coverage and 223rd in transition PPP allowed. They’re throwing the ball away and not getting back on defense against run-outs.

And now they’re tired, and likely to be sloppier with the ball and slower running back down the court.

It’s a nightmare matchup for KSU, and LSU should capitalize.

Secondly, the Tigers have a significant size advantage.

Much of the Wildcats’ scoring comes on the wing from Cam Carter and Arthur Kaluma (combined 33 points per game). However, the Tigers stand 6-foot-6, 6-foot-6 and 6-foot-10 on the wing, and the length will play a huge role in defending.

Moreover, LSU’s point guard — Williams — stands at 6-foot-3 with a four-inch height advantage over his matchup, Perry. LSU center Will Baker stands 7-foot with a four-inch advantage over his matchup, KSU’s David N’Guessan.

The Tigers have used their length — they’re 13th nationally in average height — to spearhead a top-10 mark in 2-point shooting allowed (41.1%) and a top-three mark in paint points per game allowed (21).

That’ll make life hard on the Wildcats, especially considering they’ll be trying to play up in size — they rank 257th in average height — with tired legs.

They could shoot over the top, but I expect plenty of 3s to fall short with exhausted arms.

Ultimately, Kansas State is wildly overvalued in the markets and due for a close loss. I expect that loss to come in a hostile environment against a much larger, far better-rested LSU team begging for another big non-conference victory.

I love the situational spot for LSU, and I hope the Tigers generate plenty of turnovers and transition buckets in a decisive victory.

Pick: LSU ML (Play to -130 or -2)”

Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26134 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:01 am to
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due for a close loss

I don't believe it. LSU is wildly overrated if betting odds favor them. What they've showed on the court so far this year has been pure a@@.

KSU was beating Villanova while the Tigers were escaping SOUTHEASTERN by the skin of their teeth. KSU has only two losses-- @ Miami and @ USC. Both will be tournament teams.

I understand the immense value of home court in college basketball, but LSU during this current regime has spat in the face of known shibboleths of the sport. I remember last year LSU was a big favorite at home against S. Carolina (200 places worse than the Tigers in RPI) and were HUMILIATED. Placing LSU as a favorite today is a huge ruse; lots of money will be made by placing your money on K State. LSU lost to NICHOLLS earlier in the year. It's preposterous to think they can beat a well-coached unit like K State. Today's game will possibly be redux of Syracuse.
Posted by jkylejohnson
Alexandria
Member since Dec 2016
13996 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:03 am to
Sounds like a Pickswise write up. If they like lsu then hammer k state
Posted by tarzana
TX Hwy 6--Brazos River Backwater
Member since Sep 2015
26134 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:09 am to
Put your money on K State. They're hammering LSU in PMAC. Trust me here- I know are sure bet
Posted by rds dc
Member since Jun 2008
19807 posts
Posted on 12/9/23 at 9:11 am to
quote:

Lsu beating k state tomorrow?


The advanced analytics sites say, "No"

KP/EM ratings:

K St 55/54
LSU 93/95

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