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re: LSU 5 @ Alabama 2 TIGERS WIN! Series Tied

Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:01 pm to
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:01 pm to
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You being a fan of it or not has no bearing on whether it was a sound baseball move or not.


i mean if you want to get in sabermetrics it was also the wrong call, but whatever, I'm not trying to go down this rabbit hole right now
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And fact of the matter is that if a guy like duplantis actually executed on what he was asked to do then we’re up a run right now

you have no idea how they would have pitched to beloso had there been runners on 2nd and 3rd, so this argument is kind of moot
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 3:02 pm
Posted by GeauxLSU17
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:01 pm to
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It is NEVER a bad call to bunt with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs and down 1. Never


It is an awful idea this early in the game to give up an out with one of your better hitters up.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:01 pm to
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Your run expectancy goes down, but okay



You’re much more likely to score runs with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out than you are with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs.

Especially when you take into account how we’ve hit this weekend
Posted by tigerfan88
Member since Jan 2008
8771 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:02 pm to
Actually that exact opposite. Do you think it’s 1978? Every single analytics and sabermetrics says you don’t give up an out there. Especially early in a game. Especially with one of your best hitters up.

It’s never the right call there. Just another example of Paul being behind the times
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71341 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:02 pm to
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You’re much more likely to score runs with runners on 2nd and 3rd with 1 out than you are with runners on 1st and 2nd with no outs.

negative, analytics say otherwise
Posted by StickD
Houston
Member since Apr 2010
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:03 pm to
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i'm not a fan of it in the 3rd inning with a guy like Duplantis batting


Posted by LSUJML
Central
Member since May 2008
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:03 pm to
Way to battle Walker!

Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
77143 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
Reid, Cabrera, Bianco due up to take the lead in the top of the 4th

Tied 1-1
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
104691 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
Looked like that was right at the knees to me. Not sure what the batter was thinking.
Posted by CottonWasKing
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Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:04 pm to
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sabermetrics


I’m kind of tired of seeing this word in relation to college baseball. It just doesn’t hold up as well in this game. Those are metrics based off professional athletes. There’s so much more variation in the college game.

Players beat out bunts at a much higher rate in college baseball. Errors are much more common in college baseball, especially when you put pressure on the defense.

I love sabermetrics in the pro game but they just don’t play the same way in college
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
41883 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Bunt with no outs and runners on first and second was the correct call.

Dups put it right back at the pitcher who had the automatic out at 3B, which sucked.

That’s baseball.

Actually it’s a very strange call to bunt your three hole hitter down 1-0 early.

And it’s obvious to most that watch the games that many if not most of our guys are bad at sacrifice bunting. I believe we are a poor bunting team.

Duplantis sac bunting, how often? It’s not in the season stats on sports.net, but I’d guess not often.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
82042 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
You are more likely to score 1 or 2 runs with it, sure. But it makes you alot less likely to score 3-6 runs
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
77143 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
top 4, Reid leading off

low, 1-0
outside, 2-0
low, 3-0
strike, 3-1
inside, walk!
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 3:06 pm
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
133692 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
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Your run expectancy goes down
The odds of getting one run goes UP when a sac bunt is executed with runners on first and second. But the odds of getting more than one run in that situation goes down.
Posted by GEAUXTIGER23
Member since Apr 2008
4893 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
This will be the inning we turn it on !!!!
Posted by GeauxLSU17
Member since Dec 2018
852 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:05 pm to
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And fact of the matter is that if a guy like duplantis actually executed on what he was asked to do then we’re up a run right now


You dont think they pitch differently? Come on man, learn the game.
Posted by ProjectP2294
South St. Louis city
Member since May 2007
75928 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:06 pm to
There is one time where bunting increases your probability of scoring one run in that inning. I don't remember what the situation was. Your overall run expectancy goes down but the likelihood of scoring goes up.
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 3:07 pm
Posted by CheerWhine
A little bit of Mardi Gras
Member since Apr 2014
77143 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:06 pm to
Cabrera up, Reid on 1st, no outs

outside, 1-0
strike, 1-1
foul, 1-2
foul, 1-2
foul, 1-2
swing and a miss, K
This post was edited on 4/27/19 at 3:09 pm
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71341 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:07 pm to
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I’m kind of tired of seeing this word in relation to college baseball. It just doesn’t hold up as well in this game. Those are metrics based off professional athletes. There’s so much more variation in the college game.

correct, you're more likely to get hits in the college game, which makes giving up outs even dumber
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Errors are much more common in college baseball, especially when you put pressure on the defense.

and this is your argument to give up an out and take the bat out of Duplatis' hands?
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37950 posts
Posted on 4/27/19 at 3:07 pm to
Cabrera is due here.
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