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re: LSP release Lacy info in reference to Lacy attorney misinformation

Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:40 pm to
Posted by Adajax
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:40 pm to
Are you refering to the video in the OP?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50366 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:42 pm to
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Yet the LSP decided to not mention anything of the whit vehicle failing to brake for the truck and instead 100% beyond a shadow of a doubt incorrectly said “swerved to avoid collision with the dodge charger”

You don’t see that as an issue?


No, because unlike you I don't think it was some grand conspiracy or cover up by the police. I think it was taking 10 different people's accounts of what happened and trying to come to a consensus for the report. No one is arguing the report was 100% accurate. You're the only autist who's stuck on that.

Had this moved forward there's a good chance the charges would have been lowered after more info came out, which happens all the time.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107929 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:44 pm to
So it’s accurate for me to say the LSP report is inaccurate and Lacy should not have been charged with homicide based on an inaccurate report

Thanks for coming around
Posted by southsidedell
Tampa, FL
Member since Dec 2016
5402 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:45 pm to
Oh this is 100% a cover up. They wanted Lacy BAD. Drove that dude to kill himselt too. Damn shame it is. And TD is in here with the "good riddance" to a kid that bled for thier team lol. These hoes really aint loyal.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50366 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:46 pm to
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So it’s accurate for me to say the LSP report is inaccurate and Lacy should not have been charged with homicide based on an inaccurate report

Thanks for coming around


I've already said he was likely overcharged. In this very thread in fact.

Glad you're finally catching up.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
Member since Sep 2008
4742 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:47 pm to
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And yes, if she hits her breaks and either swerves to the right into what looks like a field or just rear ends the truck, everyone probably survives.
according to the picture, the gold truck had pulled onto the shoulder and stopped leaving her eyes to either see Lacy heading towards her or back into his lane already. Which was it that she was seeing is my question.

I really dont understand what her decision was to hit the incoming suv.

Literally before she swerved to hit the suv, where was Lacy exactly? In the left lane still or back into his lane already? We not talking about lacy breaking the law in a no passing zone. Exactly what did the cadenza see to cause her to swerve into an otherwise clear view of an inevitable collision with the suv. The picture nor the video accurately shows where Lacy was at the time she decided to swerve left into the oncoming suv. We just know the gold truck had already braked and pulled to the shoulder safely to avoid Lacy. Her decision to swerve came after that.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:48 pm to
No the LSP video. Im the video you can snap shot the picture they are showing. I'd put it here but dont know how.

LINK

In this video I snap shot the Pic they showed. Don't know how to past here.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107929 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:48 pm to
Then I have no clue why you having been coming at me

I don’t think this had anything to do with race

I don’t think it’s a “conspiracy”

Unfortunately I think often responding officers find a “story” and stick to it and push that story on others which ends up inaccurate when evidence comes out which is exactly what happened here
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45938 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:52 pm to
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Unfortunately I think often responding officers find a “story” and stick to it and push that story on others which ends up inaccurate when evidence comes out which is exactly what happened here


They found their "story" immediately on the scene from the very first witnesses/victims of the accident. They confirmed this "story" when they watched the unedited security camera footage and saw exactly what the witnesses said happened. Its that simple.
Posted by lsutiger251
Member since Oct 2022
287 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:53 pm to
Tbh, im surprised she didnt pull onto shoulder also. Weird.

There were 2 utility poles and a relatively steep embankment directly to the right of the shoulder. Only reason I could see for choosing left instead of right.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
24073 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:53 pm to
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Kyren’s actions caused a chain of events that resulted in an accident. The funyon lady’s action caused an accident. Both of these statements are true.


I guess I would have to see law that determines if there is another person in the chain of events breaking traffic law, does that reset the chain?

Because if funions isn't breaking the law, the death doesn't happen, so why is Lacy's law breaking the catalyst? Was anyone else braking any other traffic laws in the vicinity that impacted the accident? Was the deceased's driver speeding?

Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107929 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:53 pm to
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They found their "story" immediately on the scene from the very first witnesses/victims of the accident. They confirmed this "story" when they watched the unedited security camera footage and saw exactly what the witnesses said happened. Its that simple.
Except for the little bitty detail of the video directly contradicting what they put in their report
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 1:54 pm
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50366 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:55 pm to
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I guess I would have to see law that determines if there is another person in the chain of events breaking traffic law, does that reset the chain?


No, it doesn't.

This is what most people can't grasp. More than one driver can be deemed responsible for a collision.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45938 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:56 pm to
There IS NO SHOULDER southbound. Only a few close driveways. Gold truck was able to bail off into one of them after initially veering halfway off the road. You can see the dust he kicks up in the video.
Posted by sharkfhin
Water
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:56 pm to
I saw that too. Possible. I would have thought she would have just braked hard and stopped in her lane. She didnt. I guess hind sight is 20/20 like they say. Hard to know what anyone would be thinking in that situation until your your in it yourself. Most bad decisions i have seen from experience come from being fatigued or eyes on your phone while driving. In my profession, i train people to be on the watch for these types of drivers while being sure that you as the driver is well rested and not on your phone(against the law). Being a good defensive driver would have read this easily and just slowed down having decent following distance from the gold truck tbw. I dont buy the "going the speed limit" like she said. If she was, her eyes had to have been distracted because of her following distance being too close. What her eyes were distracted on, we will never know unless she admits anything. Im sure LSP searched her phone to see if she was on her phone at the time of the accident and drug tested her regardless of fault.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:06 pm
Posted by pelicanpride
Houston
Member since Oct 2007
1661 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:57 pm to
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To the people downvoting me, tell me what you see? What do you see there?


I think they are making the logical conclusion that it’s more likely than not that Lacey’s reckless behavior contributed to the accident. The issue is that the legal standard isn’t “more likely than not.” Pretty sure the prosecution would have to show that Lacey caused the wreck “beyond a reasonable doubt.” I wouldn’t convict based on the evidence that I’ve seen if that’s the standard. Do I think it’s more likely than not (so 50% plus a feather) that the accident doesn’t happens if Lacey is not there? Yes. But that’s not the standard.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
45938 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:57 pm to
there is zero video that contradicts the report. I challenge you to link it.

Ory used the same video as LSP, he just edited it to crop out Lacy making the illegal pass and muted out the sound of Lacy locking up his brakes to get back in the southbound lane.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86327 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 1:59 pm to
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So it’s accurate for me to say the LSP report is inaccurate and Lacy should not have been charged with homicide based on an inaccurate report
None of this is true. Will you please tell all boards what is wrong with you? Was it head trauma? Birth defect?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
50366 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:00 pm to
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Then I have no clue why you having been coming at me


I haven't seen any statement from the lady that she was avoiding only the gold truck. Only the truck's driver saying what he THINKS she was doing, which was avoiding him.

What he THINKS happened isn't a fact, like you're presenting it to be. Do you know for a fact that she didn't see Lacy after the truck exited the road? No, you don't.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:01 pm
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107929 posts
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:00 pm to
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No, it doesn't.
Yes it can, or it can’t, or it can be a “split”

Since vehicle B was also breaking the law it can break the chain of proximate cause for illegal driving vehicle A

All comes down to if vehicle Bs illegal action and maneuver was foreseeable
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:04 pm
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