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re: LSP release Lacy info in reference to Lacy attorney misinformation
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:05 pm to lsupride87
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:05 pm to lsupride87
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Yes it can, or it can’t, or it can be a “split”
Since vehicle B was also breaking the law it can break the chain of proximate cause for illegal driving vehicle A
All comes down to if vehicle Bs illegal action and maneuver was foreseeable
The LA statute has already been posted in the thread. Lacy can be (and is) legally responsible for the wreck even though he avoid a collision himself.
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Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:06 pm to lsupride87
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Since vehicle B was also breaking the law it can break the chain of proximate cause for illegal driving vehicle A
Cite the specific crime committed by vehicle B and the evidence to support it.
Tks
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:06 pm to lsupride87
quote:
Yes it can, or it can’t, or it can be a “split”
Since vehicle B was also breaking the law it can break the chain of proximate cause for illegal driving vehicle A
All comes down to if vehicle Bs illegal action and maneuver was foreseeable
she can be charged with careless operation and share fault.
Kyren meets the definition of criminal negligence.
Key Criteria for Criminal Negligence
Grossly Negligent or Reckless Manner: The driver's actions must be more than just careless; they must show a substantial deviation from the care expected of a reasonable person.
Causal Link: The driver's actions must be the proximate cause of the death, meaning the accident would not have happened without their negligence.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:08 pm to RB10
Her statement is typed out in the original video from Lacy’s lawyer. I can’t remember the time stamp of it.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:16 pm to Chad504boy
quote:i agree with all of this.
quote:
Yes it can, or it can’t, or it can be a “split”
Since vehicle B was also breaking the law it can break the chain of proximate cause for illegal driving vehicle A
All comes down to if vehicle Bs illegal action and maneuver was foreseeable
she can be charged with careless operation and share fault.
Kyren meets the definition of criminal negligence.
Key Criteria for Criminal Negligence
Grossly Negligent or Reckless Manner: The driver's actions must be more than just careless; they must show a substantial deviation from the care expected of a reasonable person.
Causal Link: The driver's actions must be the proximate cause of the death, meaning the accident would not have happened without their negligence
BASED on lsp video and the diagram, im very curious as to what she was doing when she decided to swerve into the suv.
Pic shows gold truck pulled off(diagram)
Lacy was back into his lane(video)
Lady in Cadenza had open view of circumstances and swerves into suv.
Where im lost is "what did she see exactly to cause her to hit the suv? Sound of the crash occured after lacy got back into his lane. Or is this not right? I mean the lsp video shows this. We know gold truck got tf out of the way cause his reaction proves he saw lacy in their lane. What did she see? I think she wasnt paying attention. Good defensive driving on her part would have prevented her from making such a hasty reaction.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:17 pm to tiger91
I'd be dubious of anything coming from Ory at this point, but the full video released by LSP shows funyuns telling the officer on the scene that she was avoiding the truck (gold) who was "stomping their brakes" and "the other car (presumably Lacy) was trying to pass other cars". Followed by "I was trying to dodge, but... uniteligible. This matched the witness reports from the Astros fan and the NVI guy on the scene.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:19 pm to Vacherie Saint
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I'd be dubious of anything coming from Ory at this point, but the full video released by LSP shows funyuns telling the officer on the scene that she was avoiding the truck (gold) who was "stomping their brakes" and "the other car (presumably Lacy) was trying to pass other cars". Followed by "I was trying to dodge, but... uniteligible. This matched the witness reports from the Astros fan and the NVI guy on the scene.
This is what I remember as well. Seems like she at least saw Lacy in the wrong lane after the truck pulled off to the right.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:19 pm to sharkfhin
She was not paying attention and following too close and when the driver in front slowed down she swerved to avoid hitting him
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:22 pm to tiger91
Here’s the video — the photo of her statement typed up is a little after the 10 minute mark. Idk if this is from the day of the accident and the troopers report or after.
Htv video
Just posting for whomever asked what her statement was at that point.
(I guess the order of the statement confuses me. “All I can see is that a car is coming this way and the car In front of me”. Next line: “I’m looking at the pickup in front of me, that’s all I see at the moment”.
My question: So how’d she see a car in front of her if the truck was in front of her? Or is the car she mentioned in the first part the Halls car coming from the opposite direction? I can’t imagine my brain and words not being jumbled after this happening.
Htv video
Just posting for whomever asked what her statement was at that point.
(I guess the order of the statement confuses me. “All I can see is that a car is coming this way and the car In front of me”. Next line: “I’m looking at the pickup in front of me, that’s all I see at the moment”.
My question: So how’d she see a car in front of her if the truck was in front of her? Or is the car she mentioned in the first part the Halls car coming from the opposite direction? I can’t imagine my brain and words not being jumbled after this happening.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:25 pm to Vacherie Saint
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the NVI guy on the scene
I heard about this wreck the day after it happened from him, before anyone knew it was Kyren Lacy and he told me that he saw it all and that the green charger caused the accident.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:27 pm to Rhettro
quote:picture shows he braked and pulled to shoulder
She was not paying attention and following too close and when the driver in front slowed down she swerved to avoid hitting him
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:30 pm to tiger91
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Here’s the video — the photo of her statement typed up is a little after the 10 minute mark.
Htv video
Just posting for whomever asked what her statement was at that point.
"I just know the truck was stomping on brakes. The other car was trying to pass the other car. I was trying to dodge by not hitting him, by coming around."
Synopsis of the officer's notes from his interview of the woman:
"All I can see is that a car is coming this way and the car in front of me."
Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
"I was eating my Funyuns. I got them in the middle of my lap and driving. I'm listening to my music. All of a sudden, I see the car get in the other person's lane."
It sure does seem like she saw Lacy coming after the pickup pulled off the road to me. Pride, do you want to come tell us all why she's lying?
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:32 pm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:30 pm to sharkfhin
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Where im lost is "what did she see exactly to cause her to hit the suv? Sound of the crash occured after alcy got back into his lane. Or is this not right? I mean the lsp video shows this. We know gold truck got tf out of the way cause his reaction proves he saw lacy in their lane. What did she see?
Its pretty simple. Go to the video in the OP and look at the accident diagram. Freeze there. When the gold truck and Lacy see each other head-on at about 150 ft and closing quickly, they each react. Lacy slams on the brakes (you can hear it in the video) and whips back into the southbound lane. Simultaneously, the gold truck also hits the brakes and veers right - except there was no shoulder or driveway for him to escape to. He's still half on the northbound lane at this point and half off in the dirt (you can see the dust kick up from his truck in the video). This leaves a narrow path on the left side of the northbound lane for funyuns to clear, Funyuns sees this and immediately veers slightly left to avoid rear ending the gold truck. Just as the gold truck finds the first driveway (carwash north), he bails off as Funyuns collides with the Kia in the southbound lane. Funyuns either over steers, loses control, or misjudges the spacing between southbound traffic and the gold truck and hits the front left quarter panel of the victim.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:32 pm to sharkfhin
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really dont understand what her decision was to hit the incoming suv.
I just read her quotes in the HTV video and she says that she either runs into him, Lacy, or try to get out of the way so she tried to make it into the dollar store parking lot since she couldn't go right due to the gold truck.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:33 pm to CootKilla
My coworker is close friends with the victim's son and everyone at the scene was crystal clear and in complete agreement on what happened. Honestly, it was never questioned around here until Ory started all of his BS.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:34 pm to Vacherie Saint
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Its pretty simple. Go to the video in the OP and look at the accident diagram. Freeze there. When the gold truck and Lacy see each other head-on at about 150 ft and closing quickly, they each react. Lacy slams on the brakes (you can hear it in the video) and whips back into the southbound lane. Simultaneously, the gold truck also hits the brakes and veers right - except there was no shoulder or driveway for him to escape to. He's still half on the northbound lane at this point and half off in the dirt (you can see the dust kick up from his truck in the video). This leaves a narrow path on the left side of the northbound lane for funyuns to clear, Funyuns sees this and immediately veers slightly left to avoid rear ending the gold truck. Just as the gold truck finds the first driveway (carwash north), he bails off as Funyuns collides with the Kia in the southbound lane. Funyuns either over steers, loses control, or misjudges the spacing between southbound traffic and the gold truck and hits the front left quarter panel of the victim.
Boom there it is
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:34 pm to RB10
Yet you didn’t bold this 
• Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup truck in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
So right before the crash what she is seeing is the braking truck. Hmm
• Right before the crash occurs, "I'm looking at the pickup truck in front of me, that's all I see for the moment."
So right before the crash what she is seeing is the braking truck. Hmm
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:36 pm to lsupride87
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Yet you didn’t bold this
No, because you keep saying they’re lying that she she was avoiding Lacy.
From her statement, she saw Lacy and the truck and was trying to avoid both.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:36 pm to CootKilla
Weird.
Posted on 10/7/25 at 2:37 pm to lsupride87
I’m confused as to how she saw Lacy coming if all she could see was the truck in front of her?
100% Not being pissy or argumentative.
100% Not being pissy or argumentative.
This post was edited on 10/7/25 at 2:39 pm
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