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Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:17 am to VUfan
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They can’t. They have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
So you are claiming that the 11.7 scholarship limit doesn't affect Vanderbilt because they are already covered by the other scholarship program.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:18 am to VUfan
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They have to follow the same rules as everyone else.
They absolutely do not have to follow the same laws that the state enacts for public institutions.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:19 am to ell_13
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Remember this is ONLY necessary for baseball because of the disparity with the scholarships not covering the entire roster. No other sport has to deal with that.
Agree. Corbin himself said it was an advantage. Explicitly.
OP isnt wrong though in stating that other schools could also do this if they wanted to. They choose not to for what I assume are various reasons that make sense to them. One of the big selling points for University sports programs for joining the NCAA it's to level the playing field in competition and recruiting by setting standards and regulations. They're not doing a very good job in this case.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:23 am to nola000
quote:Needs baseball scholarships that Vandy has that are sweep across the entire student body aren't realistic at most schools or even private universities depending on endowments. TOPs is an academic award based on merit. It's also not included in the 11.7 used. However, the kid HAS to be a LA resident at the time of the award and he/she has to earn it and it has nothing to do with sports. OV is the same way except it applies to out of state and can be adjusted year over year. It's must more flexible and wide ranging and it absolutely allows for the loophole described on page one. Not every school has the capacity for this.
OP isnt wrong though in stating that other schools could also do this if they wanted to. They choose not to for what I assume are various reasons that make sense to them. One of the big selling points for University sports programs for joining the NCAA it's to level the playing field in competition and recruiting by setting standards and regulations. They're not doing a very good job in this case.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:24 am to nola000
quote:Are you sure a state school could just do this if they wanted to?
OP isnt wrong though in stating that other schools could also do this if they wanted to. They choose not to for what I assume are various reasons that make sense to them.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:26 am to MOT
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This post was edited on 10/18/21 at 10:53 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:41 am to MOT
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Are you sure a state school could just do this if they wanted to?
Michigan does it. I’m pretty sure there’s at least one more SEC school that does it. I’ll have to do some looking. Mississippi has a similar program but is geared more towards lower income families.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:45 am to VUfan
quote:Not the same and you only mentioned it because Project did. You had no clue it existed before.
Michigan does it.
quote:Again, no one does it like Vandy can. You have state schools which can only go so far when it comes to grants and aid and they will all be IN STATE help. Why can't you admit that something exists at Vandy that no one else has? Your coach has admitted to it. PM and every baseball writer talks about it. It's okay to say it exists.
I’m pretty sure there’s at least one more SEC school that does it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 11:48 am to VUfan
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It isn’t a loophole
It is a loophole. It's not something you need to apologize for. The bottom line is that it allows Vanderbilt to get better players on campus than other schools. As you mentioned, the cost of going to Vanderbilt would otherwise be a negative.
Quit being such a pussy and just accept who you are. Having to pretend that you aren't taking advantage of the situation is pathetic.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:03 pm to moneyg
Dang it guys it isn’t a loophole if everyone can do it. Maybe some of your precious money would have to be diverted away from waterfalls and stripper poles in your locker rooms but the money is there. It’s all about priorities. Have you seen Vanderbilts football stadium? It’s a dump. They choose not to put money into it. The school systems of the various SEC schools have to approve all of the lavish spending that occurs on stadiums and facilities . They could just as easily approve programs that fund tuition for all students.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:04 pm to ProjectP2294
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They only use the 11.7 on the Freshmen.
Those guys then spend a year independent from their families' income, so when they get the "adjusted tuition" based on their own income as broke dick college kids, they go for free.
OP, can you confirm or deny this is what happens? Also can joe blow non athletes do the same? Scrape by for a year independently on their own and then get the next 3 years free because of their adjusted tuition?
Also it should be noted that there’s no way vandy could compete without this. If they only had 11.7 schollies to offer and then everyone else had to pay the difference on a partial or full price for a vandy education, it would be hard to field a competitive team.
So vandy is either at a big advantage with this or a big disadvantage without it.
This post was edited on 6/21/21 at 12:07 pm
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:08 pm to VUfan
quote:First, we just explained that not everyone can do it. Get that out of your head. Second, it’s still a loophole you’re taking advantage of a program in a way that it’s not intended and circumventing a regulation by the NCAA. Even if everyone could do that, it’s still a loophole.
Dang it guys it isn’t a loophole if everyone can do it.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:13 pm to VUfan
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:24 pm to subotic
I tried. I guess we just have unlimited scholarships then. Everyone gets full rides. You guys can believe what you want to believe, but that still doesn’t make it the truth. Go Dores. Nothing sucks like a big orange.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:25 pm to VUfan
We also tried to help you understand.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:25 pm to VUfan
WTF?
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:26 pm to VUfan
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Nothing sucks like a big orange.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:33 pm to VUfan
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Believe what you want but they pay more to be at Vandy than they would to be at any other SEC school.
Bet they don’t. Someone may, but it ain’t them or their family.
Posted on 6/21/21 at 12:35 pm to VUfan
Dude, just fricking accept your advantage in recruiting and STFU. Nobody cares. It’s the one sport you guys are not last in. Congrats.
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