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Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:20 am to UpToPar
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Fixed.
man I thought I was going crazy for a second there
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:37 am to UpToPar
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Again, to recap, 1 win against an opponent with a winning conference record
It's a surprisingly small sample size though, with only 4 games
This season should provide at least 3 more data points, and maybe as many as 5.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:47 am to Bengal26
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Am I crazy for being optimistic this year?
No. You're just a fan who expects LSU to be great.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 9:48 am to Bengal26
We’ve usually had a bad offense with a solid to great running game.
People’s concern is if we don’t see a huge improvement in thenpassing game we may not have a strong running game to fall back in.
We’ve gone 7-5 before and won a bowl game.
People’s concern is if we don’t see a huge improvement in thenpassing game we may not have a strong running game to fall back in.
We’ve gone 7-5 before and won a bowl game.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 10:21 am to Bengal26
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what are we missing?
Experience mostly, we have talent and potential to be great. Just need to see if we can put it all together.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:00 am to Bengal26
Objectively the offense is a COMPLETE unknown:
1. What is Ensminger's offensive approach? We may have gotten a slight glimpse of it in 2016, but he didn't start calling plays until 4 games into that season. I doubt he revamped everything that had been installed before he took the interim gig. 2018 is his first offense at LSU...and we won't know what that will look like until the opening game
2. Regardless of who it is, in the opening game LSU will run out a QB who is making his first ever college start. Certainly we have seen many first year starting QB's have success. But until one of these guys actually starts a game, NO ONE can say they will definitely be good players.
3. For the first time in several years there is no known commodity at RB. That doesn't mean one of the guys on the roster wont be the next in line. But again, until they actually play a game no one can know.
4. The O-Line seems like it could be good. Perhaps better than last season. But there are still question marks there going into the season.
The defense should be solid. But with a tough schedule, an offense with so many unknowns, and a Head Coach who won't ever get the benefit of the doubt until he actually accomplishes something of real note, I don't see how anyone can OBJECTIVELY say this will be a great or even good LSU team. Everyone hopes that will be the case. There seems to be enough potential to make that happen. But we simply just don't know what to expect.
1. What is Ensminger's offensive approach? We may have gotten a slight glimpse of it in 2016, but he didn't start calling plays until 4 games into that season. I doubt he revamped everything that had been installed before he took the interim gig. 2018 is his first offense at LSU...and we won't know what that will look like until the opening game
2. Regardless of who it is, in the opening game LSU will run out a QB who is making his first ever college start. Certainly we have seen many first year starting QB's have success. But until one of these guys actually starts a game, NO ONE can say they will definitely be good players.
3. For the first time in several years there is no known commodity at RB. That doesn't mean one of the guys on the roster wont be the next in line. But again, until they actually play a game no one can know.
4. The O-Line seems like it could be good. Perhaps better than last season. But there are still question marks there going into the season.
The defense should be solid. But with a tough schedule, an offense with so many unknowns, and a Head Coach who won't ever get the benefit of the doubt until he actually accomplishes something of real note, I don't see how anyone can OBJECTIVELY say this will be a great or even good LSU team. Everyone hopes that will be the case. There seems to be enough potential to make that happen. But we simply just don't know what to expect.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 11:31 am to schwartzy
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I was fixing to call Finebaum's show
I really wish people wouldn't do this.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:05 pm to UpToPar
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To recap, 0 wins against a team with a winning conference record and only 2 wins against teams with an overall winning record.
Again, to recap, 1 win against an opponent with a winning conference record and only 2 wins against an opponent with a winning record overall.
So, in two years he has beaten one team with a winning record in the SEC on only 4 SEC opponents that finished the season above .500. Excuse me if I don't find that very impressive.
Well it's obvious that you would only be happy if he had lost all of the games, but he didn't. He also did not get to make the schedule and pick teams LSU has to play.
Only "LSU fans" do research of other teams records in order to try and bash the LSU head coach over WINS.
Oh BOO HOO, he won those games but the opponents suck, BOO HOO HOO.
Here's another one for you to boo hoo about - in the schedules you listed Eaux has four losses. One of those losses was to the #1 team in the country in his fourth game as IHC. Another one of those losses was to the #2 team in the country who became the #1 team when they won the national championship at the end of the season. That's some SAD shite isn't it?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:11 pm to TigerLunatik
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His history of coaching hires doesn't give you any concern of the quality of coaches he's hiring now?
Nope, not at all. I think his hiring history is almost as impressive as his recruiting history. You think otherwise?
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Obviously Pete Jenkins is a legend and he seemed to do a good job. Hugh Freeze would be another. Have there been any others?
You ever heard of a guy named Frank Wilson?
People talk about coaching trees and give the HC credit for any assistant who ever coached under him. Eaux's coaching tree is very impressive because Hugh and Frank not only coached under him but he gave them both their first ever college coaching jobs.
Hell he took a secretary from Tennessee to USC and the guy became an LSU legend that Rantards wanted to promote to athletic director and pay him over $1 million dollars a year.
I think his firings have also been pretty damn impressive.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:17 pm to Bengal26
Thats what most of the negative ones are missing. Our defense will be monstrous. Greedy and Delpit will be better. Devin white with the deep linebacker core playing behind an even deeper DLine. Our OLine will get it right we were down 2 starters in the spring game. We have depth on both lines of the ball. More receivers than we need. An accurate QB. Only weakness i see is RB, and that may not be a weakness.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:17 pm to Tiger Ree
Ree what’s your record prediction for this season?
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:17 pm to Tiger Ree
Holy shite you're really touting O's "coaching tree"?
Nothing says "impressive" like firing your first major hire after 1 year because you didn't do your due diligence and couldn't get along with him. Such an impressive firing.
Nothing says "impressive" like firing your first major hire after 1 year because you didn't do your due diligence and couldn't get along with him. Such an impressive firing.
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 12:25 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:19 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Defense cannot carry a team like in years past. See LSU 2014.
Why not see 2017?
This is what LSU gave up in the 2nd half or 4th quarter in the last 5 games of the regular season.
A&M 4th quarter points = 0
Tennessee 4th quarter points = 0
Arkansas 4th quarter points = 0
Alabama 4th quarter points = 3
Auburn 2nd half points = 0
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:20 pm to IM_4_LSU
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Wrong. He is 0-1 vs Mississippi state
You are correct. I forgot LSU played MSU while Miles was still the HC in 2016.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:27 pm to lsu2006
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Nothing says "impressive" like firing your first major hire after 1 year because you didn't do your due diligence and couldn't get along with him. Such an impressive firing.
It's not impressive but was a necessity. And the part about Eaux and Canada not getting along was speculation just as the speculation that it was Aranda who did not get along with Canada and would have left for A&M if Canada had stayed.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:28 pm to Tiger Ree
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And the part about Eaux and Canada not getting along was speculation
Why do you think he was fired, then? Surely the offense wasn't bad enough to warrant firing after 1 season.
Which firings were you impressed by exactly?
This post was edited on 6/8/18 at 12:32 pm
Posted on 6/8/18 at 12:59 pm to Bengal26
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I don't expect much from the offense even with Burrow.
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I agree with everything you said, but just curious. What are we missing on this offense for us to have no shot at being a good offense. If E ends up being a bust as OC then sure, but just as a unit and talent alone, what are we missing? I’m basing this of course on Burrow actually living up to his name.
Only answer I have is that I don't think you can cover up for bad coaching with a good QB.
As far as players go, it's all there which is why there's no excuses. I think we'll do well vs teams that simply can't match up physically, but we still lack the ability to outscheme teams with relatively equal talent.
Posted on 6/8/18 at 1:25 pm to lsu2006
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Why do you think he was fired, then?
You are responding to the post where I just answered what you are asking.
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Surely the offense wasn't bad enough to warrant firing after 1 season.
2017 College FB Team Offensive Touchdowns per Game
#74 LSU
2017 College FB Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs and FGs)
#103 LSU 77.55%
You may be happy with those numbers.
this is what Ensminger and Cameron combined did in 2016.
2016 College FB Team Offensive Touchdowns per Game
#53 LSU
2016 College FB Team Red Zone Scoring Percentage (TDs and FGs)
#70 LSU 83.33%
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