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re: Let's discuss the Beckwith situation
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:35 am to Navytiger74
Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:35 am to Navytiger74
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Maybe some guys just look different in practice.
Exactly -come on guys, it's GOT to be this....I think they must be on opposite ends of the spectrum of "some guys are just not focused in practice, but game-time ballers". I'm guessing Beckwith probably created mental obstacles for himself that took him longer to overcome and convince the coaches that he wasn't going to make the same mistakes on the field.
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 7:59 am to Coach in Waiting
when welter was in, sim ran up the middle right by him to convert either 2nd and 18 or 3rd and 18
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:06 am to lsupride87
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:12 am to lsupride87
The only theory I have is he didnt look good in practice. Athletic freak but Welter just looked better.
But the coaches didnt let him learn on the job. Some people learn differently. Some people learn at a faster pace when they are forced into action. I believe that's what Beckwith did.
But the coaches didnt let him learn on the job. Some people learn differently. Some people learn at a faster pace when they are forced into action. I believe that's what Beckwith did.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:17 am to Barry Badrinath
Beckwith wasn't ready before. It takes time with some players. Miles predicted this last year. I cannot remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of: when Beckwith gets it, he will be as good as any Miles has seen come through the program.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:23 am to AlxTgr
quote:See this argument just doesn't hold weight in this particular situation. The production gap is just too large between the two for this to make sense. Unless you think in the matter of a week or so Beckwith went from the worst MLB in the SEC to the best
Beckwith wasn't ready before. It takes time with some players. Miles predicted this last year. I cannot remember the exact quote, but it was something along the lines of: when Beckwith gets it, he will be as good as any Miles has seen come through the program.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 8:24 am
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:25 am to lsupride87
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But we literally went from possibly the worst MLB in the SEC, to the best.
You're getting carried away calling him literally the best in the SEC, but he is an upgrade, and has the potential to be the best at some point.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:27 am to inadaze
quote:Against Ole miss and Bama, his level of play is 1st team All Sec caliber
You're getting carried away calling him literally the best in the SEC, but he is an upgrade, and has the potential to be the best at some point.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:30 am to lsupride87
Beckwith was only marginally better at the outset. MSU and AU ran all over both of them.
Now, however is a diff story. Maybe it was the confidence brought by being the starter, I don't know but he is head and shoulders above Welter and also far superior to his own level of play earlier in the year.
I do agree he should have seen the field all year.
Now, however is a diff story. Maybe it was the confidence brought by being the starter, I don't know but he is head and shoulders above Welter and also far superior to his own level of play earlier in the year.
I do agree he should have seen the field all year.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:30 am to lsupride87
Welter missed on 2-3 tackles vs MSU (2 went for TD's, I think)and against AU he missed several as well(I think 1 went for a TD)!
While he probably is a good kid and nice guy!
How in the frick JC, CLM and all the other assistants on defense miss seeing KB as a star in practice is unexplainable? Maybe he is one of those kids who plays well but doesn't practice well? Who knows! But I am so glad they put him in the lineup! Him and JA have been game changers!
While he probably is a good kid and nice guy!
How in the frick JC, CLM and all the other assistants on defense miss seeing KB as a star in practice is unexplainable? Maybe he is one of those kids who plays well but doesn't practice well? Who knows! But I am so glad they put him in the lineup! Him and JA have been game changers!
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 8:32 am
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:31 am to Navytiger74
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Welter starting for half the season is the most inexplicable personnel decision that I can recall in the last 5+ years.
Josh Dworaczyk starting 36 games in his LSU career is up there too.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:35 am to lsupride87
quote:Yeah, I don't agree with you. I mean, the change was made. If you conspiracy buffs were right, Beckwith would still be on the bench.
See this argument just doesn't hold weight in this particular situation. The production gap is just too large between the two for this to make sense. Unless you think in the matter of a week or so Beckwith went from the worst MLB in the SEC to the best
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:37 am to PoppaD
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The contrast really has been stark and quite amazing. Bama moved right down the field when he went out.
First or second play he went out Bama did a draw or QB keeper up the middle for 20 yards. Welter was no where near the play again. What has happened to Ronnie Fiest. I can't believe he isn't better than Welter by now.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:45 am to lsupride87
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Against Ole miss and Bama, his level of play is 1st team All Sec caliber
I really like Beckwith, so I don't want to have to argue against him, but he is not a better MLB than Benardrick McKinney, Reggie Ragland, A.J. Johnson, Ramik Wilson, et al. He may be down the road, but not right now.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:53 am to lsupride87
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The production gap is just too large between the two for this to make sense. Unless you think in the matter of a week or so Beckwith went from the worst MLB in the SEC to the best
Beckwith was getting beat a lot in the beginning of the year when he got his shots. I don't know if it was him being out of position or slow with his first step.
Obviously he has improved, which is great, but lets not act like he was great earlier this year.
Of course, neither was Welter.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:54 am to monsterballads
anyone mind if I ask a previous, but very legitimate question:
With our recruiting prowess and advantages, why do we not have backups readily available?
Forget the fact that Clif Garrett has respiratory issues. Are they talking HAE, PID or alpha-1? Who knows, it might be something else.
But he is a freshman. There should be a 2012 guy that has combined ability with playbook knowledge.
We should be able to plug them in and go with minimal (not zero....not delusional here) hiccups. Chavis is supposed to recruit and develop these lbs.
With our recruiting prowess and advantages, why do we not have backups readily available?
Forget the fact that Clif Garrett has respiratory issues. Are they talking HAE, PID or alpha-1? Who knows, it might be something else.
But he is a freshman. There should be a 2012 guy that has combined ability with playbook knowledge.
We should be able to plug them in and go with minimal (not zero....not delusional here) hiccups. Chavis is supposed to recruit and develop these lbs.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 8:57 am to dstone12
LSU signed 7 LBers in 2012...
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:00 am to Salmon
And none of them are able to efficiently back up a frosh. That's the crux of the whole post and question. ???
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:00 am to lsupride87
Well he was at de last year. And during his recruitment everyone said his future could be with his hand in the dirt.
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:01 am to AlxTgr
quote:It is no conspiracy. The coaches just missed on making the move sooner. It happens to everyone
Yeah, I don't agree with you. I mean, the change was made. If you conspiracy buffs were right, Beckwith would still be on the bench.
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