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re: Let's discuss the Beckwith situation

Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:30 am to
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:30 am to
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You are the idiot here that thinks Louisiana has more NFL prospects than other states.


Per capita, this is true.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
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Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:37 am to
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The coaches just missed on making the move sooner. It happens to everyone

I don't think you can know that.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30722 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:39 am to
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per capita this is true



You can't convey knowledge to her. She doesn't grasp that per capita thing.
Posted by bradybones24
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2012
593 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:43 am to
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do recall JLee throwing 2 picks on our side the field in the Bama game, and JJ leading us down the field multiple times and allowing us to win the game?


Wow....multiple times? All I recall is one long pass that was caught by Russell Shepard (who wasn't even the intended receiver on the play) and getting the ball at the 25 in overtime. The other field goal was setup by the Claiborne int. This is such a misconception. Our offensive production in that game was pathetic.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
96696 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:45 am to
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I don't think you can know that.
So you dont think Beckwith was better until the point he became a starter? I cant buy that. The production gap is too large for me to think he was worse then Welter until October
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:49 am to
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Per capita, this is true.


i know!!!! but when your entire state doesnt even have the same number of people as cities in other states, per capita doesnt mean anything.

Like i said to dstone, you can not put a championship team together with la talent alone.

Where are the dts? where are the linebackers? qbs? yeah dak prescott is one since eli manning. you have to recruit out of state.

I didnt say per capita now did i? California, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida all put more players in the nfl last draft. The numbers for LA were even lower from 06-11.

again per capita doesnt mean anything. Mississppi is rt there with LA in per capita, but they may have had 5 people drafted from their sate. How in the frick are they supposed to win championships? oh they recruit other states.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:49 am to
People cannot admit that Welter's grasp on the job lasted two years too long. They refuse to see what is as plain as the nose on their face. Beckwith isn't a middle linebacker who wins every individual battle and never makes a mistake. However, he has ALWAYS produced more than Welter did. The idea that he couldn't have overtaken Welter until the moment the coaches pulled the trigger that many posters here seem to think is Gospel is laughable precisely for the reason you list. The production gap is so massive, it was a mistake by the staff.

Everyone just has to deal with it. The staff blew it. They overvalued whatever leadership or lining people up Welter supposedly did. For all of Welter's prowess lining us up, during his tenure as field general LSU had the most straight up busts they have had since Miles got here. Not to belabor it, but Welter just wasn't the right fit in this scheme.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 9:52 am
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81948 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:50 am to
Beckwith was always better at certain things. Being lost on a play does the team no good regardless of your ability.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:50 am to
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i know!!!! but when your entire state doesnt even have the same number of people as cities in other states, per capita doesnt mean anything.



You either typed something in error or you misunderstood the term per capita.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:55 am to
Florida had 44 players drafted this year. LA had 10.

So even if you split 44 players among 3 florida schools, they still have more access to top flight players.

How hard is this to understand?

I simply said that Louisiana doesnt have the most players drafted. period. I didnt say per capita.


this argument came about because dstone said geographically we should own bama in recruiting. Which is false considering they are closer to florida and georgia, the two most talent rich states in the south. Why? because pure population numbers say we will never have as many top flight prospects as those states.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4890 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:56 am to
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i know!!!! but when your entire state doesnt even have the same number of people as cities in other states, per capita doesnt mean anything.

Like i said to dstone, you can not put a championship team together with la talent alone.

Where are the dts? where are the linebackers? qbs? yeah dak prescott is one since eli manning. you have to recruit out of state.

I didnt say per capita now did i? California, Texas, Ohio, Georgia, Florida all put more players in the nfl last draft. The numbers for LA were even lower from 06-11.





Okay, I agree with you. OOS recruiting is important.

Philip Montgomery could probably help improve Texas (and QB) recruiting.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:57 am to
Oh, I apologize. You must have thought that I was arguing with you or care at all about this stupid nonsense. I don't. I just object to the idea that per capita doesn't matter because the cities/states don't have the same populations. That's what fricking per capita is for.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 10:06 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30722 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:57 am to
Dgnx.


This conversation is soaring waaaaay over your head.




Don't mention me in any of your posts. When I want to talk to someone that knows football, or has any common sense at all; You won't have to worry, I won't come to you for anything.

No need to continually fly off the handle.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 9:59 am
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 9:59 am to
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People cannot admit that Welter's grasp on the job lasted two years too long.


What? welter started for 1 year, this year isnt over yet. Minter started in 12. Also bekcwith spelled welter in every game until he won the staring job. Yes welter played too long, but he hasnt been the starter for two years.
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:01 am to
dstone, i replied to you in this thread because you were the last one that posted, i wasnt even replying to what you said, just the overall theme of this thread and you attacked me.

so go frick your self.
Posted by inadaze
Member since Aug 2010
4890 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:01 am to
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I just object to the idea that per capita doesn't matter because the cities/states don't have the same populations.


Yeah, you can't just dismiss that per capita stat. It's impressive no matter how you look at it.
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25348 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:01 am to
Welter started 20 games coming into the Kentucky game this year. Want to know how I know that? It was on the program that he was on the cover of.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:04 am to
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That's why fricking per capita is for.


Dude, this was in a thread yesterday that dstone was arguing about. I responded in this thread to the last person that posted not even looking at the name and he went off on me. i wasnt even responding to him.


I know what per capita is for.

Ok so LA has the most nfl players per capita, doesnt mean we have the most nfl players in the country.

i dont see how this is so hard to understand.

Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
69365 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:06 am to
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Welter started 20 games coming into the Kentucky game this year. Want to know how I know that? It was on the program that he was on the cover of


12 games in a season.

I agreed he started too long, but its not like anyone else hasnt played. And he hasnt started 24 games, which is two years. which is what you said.
This post was edited on 11/11/14 at 10:07 am
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30722 posts
Posted on 11/11/14 at 10:07 am to
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So gfy




That would only bother me if it came from someone that wasn't flying off the handle or could actually grasp the information one was asking in the first place.

I'm not picking on you. But you do seem very very out of touch.

There is a trail of questions behind you that you cannot answer. But again, I'm not interested kn your opinion anymore.
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