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re: Let the rumors swirl baby!!!
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:31 am to Kool Kaliper
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:31 am to Kool Kaliper
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Please make it make sense. Our fans, I just don't understand the infatuation with Wade, you would think he's Nick Saban of basketball.
It's more baffling how people DON'T understand this. If nothing else, the last 4 years have revealed just how little LSU fans, on the whole, understand the college basketball market, and how to perform basic deductive reasoning.
Nonetheless, I'll try (likely in vain) to explain. From 1994 - 2017, a 23 year period, LSU had 13 winning seasons. LSU reached 6 NCAA Tournaments. In Wade's 5 seasons at LSU he had 5 winning seasons and reached what would have been 4 straight NCAA Tournaments had the 2020 tournament not been canceled. Before Wade did so, LSU had not made 3 straight NCAA Tournaments in nearly 30 years. Of the 5 head coaches that came after Brown, Wade's career winning % in nearly 100 points better than any of them. A number that looks even more favorable compared to the coach with the WORST winning % in over 50 years.
LSU fans liked Wade because they saw an energetic young coach who consistently won at a higher rate than anyone else in decades. No one is arguing he is the "Nick Saban" of college basketball. But compared to the 4 LSU coaches besides him since 2000, he is.
It's ridiculous that we live in a world of CONSTANT hyperbole. That's largely what drives the division in this otherwise stupid debate. Wade is NOT the best HC in the country and no Wade fan would reasonably say otherwise. However, in no way, shape, or form is he a bad coach. Especially when compared to the other LSU coaches. LSU fans want Wade back because he was the guy who over the course of 30+ years won at a more consistent level than anyone else. The hope being that with a baseline level of success he could improve upon it to have even more success.
IT'S NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND!
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Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:31 am to docTQ4
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That’s a significant improvement for us. He also brought this university to the dance multiple times. Something McClown won’t do if we give him 20 years.
Agree.
All of these hope threads got me curious on the math.
Fire MM - 80% of $10 Mil
Staff fire- $2 mil (just a guess)
WW - > $3.2 mil (what he has now) for 6 yrs
WW buyout - $5.0 mil
NIL commitment - $10 mil (jsut a guess)
New staff - $3 mil?
Anybody else got numbers?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:34 am to Recoveringcajun
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I almost hope that LSU hires WW just so I can watch all of the WW nut slurpers turn on him as he continues to get bounced out of the postseason the moment he plays a real team in the first round or so in the tourney.
Wait...I thought it was never wins a game. Now it's changed to he can't beat a "real" team.
So the goalpost just keeps moving.
Anybody you play in the NCAAT is a "real" team.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 8:35 am
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:38 am to GetmorewithLes
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All of these hope threads got me curious on the math.
Fire MM - 80% of $10 Mil
Staff fire- $2 mil (just a guess)
WW - > $3.2 mil (what he has now) for 6 yrs
WW buyout - $5.0 mil
NIL commitment - $10 mil (jsut a guess)
New staff - $3 mil?
That's pretty close with some caveats.
The staff buyouts are over the original term of the contract and subject to an offset. Meaning that nearly any job landed by these assistants next year would almost completely offset their buyouts. Patrick is the biggest and also most likely to land a job quickly.
McMahon's also has an offset and is payable over 3 years. Doubt we pay the full $8MM
Wade's buyout is $5 Mil today and $3 Mil in two weeks.
I don't see the NIL as a difference. No matter who the coach is $10 Mil seems to be the new floor in the SEC.
New staff and new contract for Wade will be a little bit of an increase over these numbers from this year.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:40 am to Tiger2tiga
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So u ok with just making the tournament and losing in the first or second round?
1,000% yes
I just want consistency and to be in the tournament every year with a deeper run every 6-8 years or so.
We’re a football/baseball school first, and then basketball. I’m not expecting championships.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:41 am to SOL2
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Why do we want someone that loses to UTx. We already have that person.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:53 am to Hiphopanonymous
What would WW's potential salary be at LSU?
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:57 am to Hiphopanonymous
We really need a coaching changes special session for this.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:57 am to Recoveringcajun
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I almost hope that LSU hires WW just so I can watch all of the WW nut slurpers turn on him as he continues to get bounced out of the postseason the moment he plays a real team in the first round or so in the tourney.
wtf. We’re just trying to have some excitement at the moment. Getting to the tournament is exciting. Once we do that somewhat consistently we can start looking towards not getting bounced. Baby steps
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:58 am to geauxtigers87
Vive le general.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 8:58 am to Recoveringcajun
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so I can watch all of the WW nut slurpers turn on him as he continues to get bounced out of the postseason the moment he plays a real team in the first round or so in the tourney.
That's a LOT better than what we have now.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:00 am to idlewatcher
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What would WW's potential salary be at LSU?
His current salary at NC State is a base of roughly $3M with incentives. Basically, it's about the same as McMahon's salary at LSU. IMO, I think it would take an annual salary of $4.5M - $5M to get him to consider LSU.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:08 am to ellessuuuu
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Wade's buyout is $5 Mil today and $3 Mil in two weeks.
I missed that April 1 it goes down to $3mil.
I would assume MM buyout is a monthly cost like BK since it is mitigated by future employment.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:09 am to Recoveringcajun
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I almost hope that LSU hires WW just so I can watch all of the WW nut slurpers turn on him as he continues to get bounced out of the postseason the moment he plays a real team in the first round or so in the tourney.
No! I hope we retain Mac. You deserve him. Too bad we got a new Gov and he fired Kelly.
You Clowns love living in Misery.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:10 am to vidtiger23
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wtf. We’re just trying to have some excitement at the moment. Getting to the tournament is exciting. Once we do that somewhat consistently we can start looking towards not getting bounced.
Think of the level of absurdity required to call yourself an LSU basketball fan, yet vehemently reject the idea of hiring the only guy this century who proved he could consistently reach the NCAA Tournament at LSU.
That same poster will tell you "LSU can do better"...but he can't tell you WHO is better, WHY they are better, and how there is an even remotely reasonable chance LSU could hire them. For example, guys like Todd Golden and Danny Hurley have had FAR better postseason success than Wade. No one would argue otherwise. But it's not reasonable LSU would be able to hire those guys.
The reality is this. No LSU basketball fan rejects the idea of Wade returning. The rejection comes from people who (a) aren't really basketball fans (same as I'm not really a big baseball fan, so I don't really passionately care about coaching changes there) and/or (b) hate the people who gush hyperbolically about Wade, not actually Wade himself.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:11 am to GetmorewithLes
quote:Correct. 80% of remaining contract amount paid out in monthly installments over remaining contract duration.
I would assume MM buyout is a monthly cost like BK since it is mitigated by future employment.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:15 am to Gus007
quote:That dude hates LSU basketball. Most of those dudes either hate basketball or at best hate Wade more than they care about LSU MBB, which is still little to none.
You Clowns love living in Misery.
You got one particular poster here that said he hadn’t watched a game since early January, yet he’s in every thread with multiple, multiple posts. The gist of those posts? frick Wade.
It’s hilariously stupid.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:19 am to tigahlovah
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Go take a look at Scott Drew's career at Baylor. He consistently made the tournament for years, and won the title in his EIGHTEENTH season there. You numb nuts ackin like he's been a coach for 30 years and he's in his 60s. It's laughable.
The more shots on goal you take the more chance to get the right seed and matchups to make a run.
There are some GREAT teams that didn’t go as far as you would think.
Zion Duke.
John wall boogie cousins Kentucky.
Etc etc.
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:22 am to Alt26
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That same poster will tell you "LSU can do better"...but he can't tell you WHO is better, WHY they are better, and how there is an even remotely reasonable chance LSU could hire them. For example, guys like Todd Golden and Danny Hurley have had FAR better postseason success than Wade. No one would argue otherwise. But it's not reasonable LSU would be able to hire those guys.
The only established name besides Wade that I can come up with that *MIGHT* be possible is Eric musselman.
That doesn’t mean I think we should keep McMahon instead of having to play the mid major roulette wheel.
I’m just naming the one other potentially realistic established name
Posted on 3/18/26 at 9:22 am to Alt26
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hate the people who gush hyperbolically about Wade, not actually Wade himself.
I wouldn’t say I hate them (I don’t know them), but they’ve been unbearably annoying for some time. Yes-I admit part of my desire to see what an actual search and vetting process would look like is, selfishly, just to shut them up.
But I have no issues with Will Wade himself, and would be perfectly happy to welcome him back if he wanted, as nauseating as his worshippers are.
As far as the “but who else?” retort, I think it’s stupid. We don’t have to know the answer. We’re not the ones paid to. Verge and the board make those decisions and I support them going out and finding a good coach no matter who it is. Any fan should.
This post was edited on 3/18/26 at 9:44 am
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