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re: Let me see if I can list the Mainieri blunders so far this year

Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:31 pm to
Posted by VeryReauxna_ish
Bossier City
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:31 pm to
The restart against Tennessee he left Floyd in throwing fastball after fastball after fastball until they finally got to him and tied the game up with a fresh Fontenot waiting in the bullpen.

Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:33 pm to
Vietmeir wouldn’t see innings on any good SEC team

Hillard pitching in an 8-1 game would have been fine. Seeing how this game ended, that wouldn’t guarantee you anything.

It is hard to pitch in the SEC at 87-88.
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:35 pm to
Hill has the best stuff and the better Pro potential but he wasn't always on. Marceaux is an outstanding college pitcher and just more consistent. I could even argue that Labas is more reliable. I think those two guys give you chance to win every time they pitch and can be counted on to save your bullpen.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
13018 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:38 pm to
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PM doesn’t use today’s technology. He’s not a spin rate, exit velocity bat angle guy. He is living in the past. Reminds me of Les.


The guy definitely has his faults, such as mismanagement of a pitching staff, but you’re making stuff up now.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:40 pm to
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could even argue that Labas is more reliable


Well yes everyone knows now that marceaux & labas are pitching better

No one was willing to say that then. And has no bearing on wins and losses anywayv
Posted by LSU316
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:48 pm to
There ain't any doubt in my mind that Hilliard should have seen the mound today before LSU lost the lead.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 9:49 pm to
Good list, this year has been baffling from a coaching perspective
Posted by ProjectP2294
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Posted on 4/24/21 at 10:14 pm to
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Check your mail Proj


Done
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6013 posts
Posted on 4/24/21 at 10:19 pm to
I guess that is my point Josh. I think he is a hall of fame college baseball coach and I'm not just going to call him lesticles. The facts remain though, that he has gone contrary to most of us on the board and he has been wrong more than right. We need a coach that is going to make better decisions than the rant, not worse.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 6:55 am to
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Hilliard has actually had an increase in velocity this yea

His fastball is considerably worse this year. It’s faster, but he doesn’t locate it as well, and most importantly, it does’t have the late life it used to. I do think he’s more reliable than Floyd.
Posted by Penrod
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 7:04 am to
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You can make the same argument about George getting all those innings early too.

No you can’t. CPM knows that pitchers who are looking good in practice have to be given multiple opportunities in games. That’s how you finally sort them out. He does that early in the season when it hardly matters.

The problem with CPM is he doesn’t work very hard, and it results in poor recruiting decisions. His coaching is actually good. You guys are just nitpicking decisions. As CPM said about leaving Coleman in, the guys he replaced him with got hammered. So the Rant’s solution is to replace him earlier, but with different guys. But we don’t even know who was available, who was hurt, who was sick, who looked good in his last bullpen session.
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 7:33 am to
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CPM knows that pitchers who are looking good in practice have to be given multiple opportunities in games.
freshmen and sophomores..sure. 5th year seniors, not so much.
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He does that early in the season when it hardly matters.

Except he didnt.

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The problem with CPM is he doesn’t work very hard, and it results in poor recruiting decisions

Agreed. A big part of the problem IMO is he doesnt get to know his players, their strengths and weaknesses early enough, before the season starts, and so we struggle early while he tries to sort it out almost just like the fans are.

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As CPM said about leaving Coleman in, the guys he replaced him with got hammered. So the Rant’s solution is to replace him earlier, but with different guys. But we don’t even know who was available, who was hurt, who was sick, who looked good in his last bullpen session.

Thats just ridiculous. Coming in with hilliard, floyd, brady, or hell even vietmeier wouldve been fine after coleman let a couple guys on in the 8th...and definitely after the homer to make it 9-5. He left him in because of the coveted lefty lefty matchup which is backed up by years of statsbut completely ignores situation and talent involved.

And we know floyd was available to go in earlier. He went in the game after it was tied. If floyd came in at 9-5 and gave up a few hits and we lost, id have at least understood
This post was edited on 4/25/21 at 7:35 am
Posted by N2daWild
Member since Jul 2019
6013 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 8:01 am to
The number one thing you can't do as a pitcher with a 8 run lead in the 8th is give free passes. Brady, Hilliard or Vietmeier all would have been better options in the 8th.
Posted by ramchallenge
Member since Nov 2009
2984 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:31 am to
Mainieri has permanently benched the experienced pitchers and put the inexperienced freshmen pitchers at the forefront! WHY????
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
16440 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:32 am to
He woke up waddled to the car and drove on to campus......... must end this ritual immediately.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:45 am to
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No you can’t. CPM knows that pitchers who are looking good in practice have to be given multiple opportunities in games.
George has been here 4 years. We knew what he could and couldn’t do from day 1 of this year. What you didn’t know where what these freshman could do yet George was given all these innings early on as if he would ever be an important piece. That’s exactly what happened with Bianco.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:49 am to
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George has been here 4 years. We knew what he could and couldn’t do from day 1 of this year. What you didn’t know where what these freshman could do yet George was given all these innings early on as if he would ever be an important piece. That’s exactly what happened with Bianco.


George was mostly used when the game was out of reach to save better arms.
He pitched 7-1/3 all season. I don’t think that made any difference in developing our young pitchers. The problem is with the pitching coach not identifying the better ones, giving them a role and putting them in a position to succeed.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 10:54 am to
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He pitched 7-1/3 all season. I don’t think that made any difference in developing our young pitchers.
It certainly delayed it.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36017 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:01 am to
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It certainly delayed it.

Lol

If you aren’t being coached up how does pitching a couple of more innings guarantee success? It doesn’t.

George pitched 1-1/3 of an inning in SEC okay. 7-1/3 overall and he isn’t the problem, The young pitchers have had multiple chances to show up and have had limited success, but none have a real role and none really know what they are being counted on to do. That had nothing to do with George getting some action when we needed an inning eater.

Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
85031 posts
Posted on 4/25/21 at 11:01 am to
He pitched in game 1. Fine. But then he was brought in to close out game two. Back to back days? In the first weekend? Him? Lol. No. And a loss.

He pitched in every game vs UTSA. Up to that point he had 6 appearances and 5 innings. Some of them in crucial spots. You know what you had. Yet he comes in in the 3-1 loss vs Tenn just to walk a couple guys. Excellent.

He’s not here to get meaningful innings. We knew that pre season. Yet he got them. Hence the comparison to Bianco.
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