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re: Les taking shots at O on the radio?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
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Seriously, go look at 2015 & 16’ and tell me you won’t promptly need a barf bag for all the talent we wasted
Who brought in that talent?
And I thought O took over a roster without talent to compete right away?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:25 pm to LSUMIKEV
I was never a Les fan either Mike, but it's hard to argue with the overall results.
I do agree that this comes across a bit like sour grapes. That doesn't mean he's not telling the truth though.
I do agree that this comes across a bit like sour grapes. That doesn't mean he's not telling the truth though.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:27 pm to lsu2006
are you not familiar with mike?
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:28 pm to Tiger Voodoo
Let’s see, I think we had 17 guys in nfl training camps the summer before O’s first year.
Still no QB.
Guys like Trey Quinn & Diarse transfered. NO WRs.
No LB depth.
No line depth on either side.
Guice, Key, Lawrence all injured last year.
Still no QB
I don’t think we were set up to be very good I’m O’s first year, and I said that from the onset.
Still no QB.
Guys like Trey Quinn & Diarse transfered. NO WRs.
No LB depth.
No line depth on either side.
Guice, Key, Lawrence all injured last year.
Still no QB
I don’t think we were set up to be very good I’m O’s first year, and I said that from the onset.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:30 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:28 pm to Lester Earl
I just don't understand why people feel the need to shite all over Miles in order to try to make O look better. He should have been fired after the '15 season, but he had LSU in the top 10 discussion for a decade. I was never a fan of his coaching style, but the results are what they are.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:29 pm to Lester Earl
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Seriously, go look at 2015 & 16’ and tell me you won’t promptly need a barf bag for all the talent we wasted. You don’t get those years back!!!!
He was getting the talent at least. Can't say the same for Eddie O.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:30 pm to TigerLunatik
Les I believe is Butt hurt and knows in the back of his mind O going to steamroll some teams. He's acting like Hillary after the election. What a douche. My opinion of him is on par with curly and dinardo
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:31 pm to SaintLSU
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And he still lucked out needing a miracle after 2 losses to win a championship.
Pre college football playoff, unless you went undefeated, you were "lucking" into a national championship. It has always bugged me that Les never gets full credit for his championship, and I'm not even a big of a fan of Les and his archaic coaching philosophy.
If Saban and Alabama don't luck into the 2011-12 BCS Championship game, Les is viewed entirely different.
LSU was right to fire Les when they did. The Saban/Bama machine broke Les Miles on 1/9/12, and Les never recovered.
LSU went wrong when they did not have a legitimate coaching search after firing Les. Alleva had his feelings hurt by Herman and then rushed and hired a sure thing with a guy literally no other program was pursuing.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:32 pm to BilJ
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are you not familiar with mike?
No I am. I'm still taken aback by his stupidity whenever he graces us with one of his posts.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:32 pm to LSUMIKEV
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My opinion of him is on par with curly and dinardo
C'mon buddy. That's WAY too far. The guy was averaging 10 wins a season for a decade. Those guys were flashes in the pan. DiNardo had the best non championship win that I've ever seen in Tiger Stadium, but it's nothing compared to what Miles did for the program.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:35 pm to TigerLunatik
Miles’ results were satisfying for most of his tenure, but it was always the process that was going to be his downfall, & that showed pretty early.
I agree tho comparing Miles & O is silly but the quicker people realize this program needed some TLC after Miles left the easier it will be to accept that despite what O said, he may need to bring in more than just 1 recruiting class to really turn the corner,
I agree tho comparing Miles & O is silly but the quicker people realize this program needed some TLC after Miles left the easier it will be to accept that despite what O said, he may need to bring in more than just 1 recruiting class to really turn the corner,
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:36 pm to lsu2006
You think les could coach geez. Les was a fricking disaster. To have the best talent in college football in each position in 11 go undefeated and get your arse kicked in the Superdome is unacceptable but to you light on the loafers fans he's just wonderful. You know nothing about what you talk about. Nothing!!! Just watch LOSER
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:39 pm to LSUMIKEV
“ on a par with curly and dinardo”
You have to be college football/SEC football mentally challenged to really believe that.
You have to be college football/SEC football mentally challenged to really believe that.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:39 pm to Lester Earl
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but it was always the process that was going to be his downfall, & that showed pretty early.
No question whatsover. The two things that bugged me the most were his clock management (obviously) and the fact that the team seemed to always be in disarray in the 2 minute drill. After the Yeldon TD, on the ensuing drive, it was painfully obvious that Jeremy Hill had no clue at all what to do with the ball once he got it.
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he may need to bring in more than just 1 recruiting class to really turn the corner
Every coach is different, so you're probably right about that too. I hope we see some positives from that this year.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:40 pm to Goldrush25
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He was getting the talent at least. Can't say the same for Eddie O.
This is so silly & premature to say at this point. If at the end of the year you are not happy with our 2019 class, our sophomores that will be logging heavy minutes, some scattered freshmen, as well as our juco & graduate transfers, then I’ll stsrt listening to crap like this.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:41 pm to LSUMIKEV
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Les was a fricking disaster. To have the best talent in college football in each position in 11 go undefeated
Take a step back and think about this statement. He's a fricking disaster, BUT was undefeated in the regular season and in the National Championship game. Doesn't make sense bro.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:44 pm to AA77
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O was billed as an immediate improvement to Miles, so far he hasn’t been.
This is the biggest trash argument of all time. If you believed that O was possibly an improvement to Miles in ANY way you are culpable for our pending 6-6 season. Past performance did not indicate that O was a better fit. O's plan for the Tiger's did not indicate that he was a better fit (saying he is going to hire two expert coordinators and let them coach was stupid AF). People got sold on basically an ESPN 30 for 30 story about O's come back.
I do believe that Miles was not going to change and it was time for him to go (once you hire your best man and it doesn't work out, you have to go down with that ship, see Rex Ryan hiring his brother). HOWEVER, not performing an ounce of due diligence in the head coach search process is completely incomprehensible and honestly borderline criminal. The AD should have been, and still should be, relieved of his duties, but not before the Governor puts in some competent people on the Board of Regents that will finally have both the School's and the Athletic Department's best interest in mind.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:45 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:47 pm to broadcaster
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I’m not a O pumper by any means I am a LSU football pumper and I want every football coach to succeed at LSU no matter who it is. for you people to sit there and try to say miles left in the cupboard full and we didn’t have depth issues your just flat out lying
Pray tell what depth issues we had?
LSU lost 4 OL to transfers AFTER the 2016 season. Miles was long gone by then. LSU brought in 6 DL, 5 LBs, 4 OL 3 CBs, 3 safeties, and a QB in the 2016 class among other skill positions. In the 2017 class 4 DL, 4 OL, 2 safeties and a CB, 2 QBs, and an LB among other recruits, committed to LSU before Miles was fired. That's 10 DL, 6 LBs, 8 OL, 5 safeties, 4 CBs, and 3 QBs.
The starting lineup on both sides was set that we didn't need any of the 2016 class to start that year (the #2 ranked class in the country), and we barely needed any of the 2017 recruits to start early.
No we didn't have depth issues, and neither were we young. You guys just continue to make excuses for Ed when all the problem Fall on him. Miles did his part. A lot of kids have transferred since the end of the 2016 season, months after Miles was gone.
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:48 pm to tigerMike
I liked Les as well as most but in all fairness I don't recall Orgeron ever saying he needed a safety net of any kind.
In addition, Orgeron inherited a team which was short several players on both the OL and DL. The team also had the on going QB problem.
Orgeron has focused on the lack of depth on the lines and brought in a top QB.
I will bet that the LSU offense will be much better under Orgeron and Ensminger than it was under Les and Cam.
The LSU Defense is going to be outstanding this season with a deep DL.
It should be the best Defense Aranda has had at LSU.
Orgeron deserves a chance and our support. Ex coaches really should not get into critiqueing their replacements.
In addition, Orgeron inherited a team which was short several players on both the OL and DL. The team also had the on going QB problem.
Orgeron has focused on the lack of depth on the lines and brought in a top QB.
I will bet that the LSU offense will be much better under Orgeron and Ensminger than it was under Les and Cam.
The LSU Defense is going to be outstanding this season with a deep DL.
It should be the best Defense Aranda has had at LSU.
Orgeron deserves a chance and our support. Ex coaches really should not get into critiqueing their replacements.
This post was edited on 6/15/18 at 1:50 pm
Posted on 6/15/18 at 1:49 pm to TigerLunatik
I know exactly what I sad to have the best college football team in the history of LSU amd still lose that game is unacceptable Bobby Hebert got it and was the only one with balls to question him amd his coaching.
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