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re: Les Miles Put Clemson on the Map
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:28 am to TheBigHurt
Posted on 8/28/25 at 7:28 am to TheBigHurt
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Get heart burn thinking about that peach bowl New Year’s Eve kick in the balls.
I had to watch it with Clemson fans in Charleston to boot
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Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:38 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
Yup probably a top 5ish Les game I wish we could've won. UGH
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:46 am to S
All I can think of is Les had ptsd from not throwing the ball and settling for a missed field goal up 3 against Alabama earlier that season.
But it wasn’t a comparable situation. Against Alabama it was 2nd and 7 and 3rd and 10. It was 2nd and 2 against Clemson and he doesn’t run the ball. Les was an idiot.
But it wasn’t a comparable situation. Against Alabama it was 2nd and 7 and 3rd and 10. It was 2nd and 2 against Clemson and he doesn’t run the ball. Les was an idiot.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 8:51 am to Tiger_n_ATL
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Les Miles was simply a HORRIBLE coach.
Disagree.
He was a good (maybe even very good) coach. The inability to field a consistently competent passing game (not even some great one) kept him from being a great coach.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:01 am to TheBigHurt
I think Clemson ran 82 offensive plays that game.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:03 am to Ruston Trombone
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Dude would start trying to run out the clock because we’re up a score going into the 4th quarter.
What? That's one of the few games he didn't do that.
Clemson couldn't stop Hill...so in his infinite offensive genius Les decided to not give him the ball. Hill had something like 94 yards and two TDs on 6 carries in the first half and first play of the 3rd. Mettenberger was terrible in that game, but Les kept passing.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:18 am to Ruston Trombone
While there are legit criticisms of Les, this drive shouldn't be one of them. Ive included the final LSU drive for those who don't remember how it played out.
Theres 2:43 left in the game when the offense lines up. Clemson has all 3 timeouts.
1st play: 2:43 left in the game, 1st and 10 on the LSU 39, 8 yard pass from Mett to Boone completed
2nd and 2: ball snapped at 1:58, Mett play action fakes to Hill, rolls out right, doesn't take time to set his feet and misses a wide open Landry, high. Had he thrown it anywhere that was catch-able and Landry falls right there, its a 5 yard gain; however, he would have had room to turn up field and pick up at least 10. It was a perfect play call that Mett didn't execute. Clock stops at 1:52.
3rd and 2: Mett drops back and the ball is batted down at the line. 1:47 left on the clock.
The first play worked out great. Complete for 8 yards, kept the clock running. The second play was perfect. Clemson expected the run, and would have led to a first down and Clemson using a timeout with 1:52 or less (depending on Landry gaining more yards). Then we could have run Hill 3 times to try and run out the clock and Clemson's time out. This one was on Mett, not Les.
Final LSU Drive
Theres 2:43 left in the game when the offense lines up. Clemson has all 3 timeouts.
1st play: 2:43 left in the game, 1st and 10 on the LSU 39, 8 yard pass from Mett to Boone completed
2nd and 2: ball snapped at 1:58, Mett play action fakes to Hill, rolls out right, doesn't take time to set his feet and misses a wide open Landry, high. Had he thrown it anywhere that was catch-able and Landry falls right there, its a 5 yard gain; however, he would have had room to turn up field and pick up at least 10. It was a perfect play call that Mett didn't execute. Clock stops at 1:52.
3rd and 2: Mett drops back and the ball is batted down at the line. 1:47 left on the clock.
The first play worked out great. Complete for 8 yards, kept the clock running. The second play was perfect. Clemson expected the run, and would have led to a first down and Clemson using a timeout with 1:52 or less (depending on Landry gaining more yards). Then we could have run Hill 3 times to try and run out the clock and Clemson's time out. This one was on Mett, not Les.
Final LSU Drive
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:19 am to The Boat
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But it wasn’t a comparable situation. Against Alabama it was 2nd and 7 and 3rd and 10. It was 2nd and 2 against Clemson and he doesn’t run the ball. Les was an idiot.
Yeah and Jeremy Hill was awesome and having a great night. One of the biggest blunders of Miles' tenure.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:30 am to Harvey Vortac
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I think Clemson ran 82 offensive plays that game.
they ran 100. 50 passes/ 50 runs.
ESPN box score
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:32 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:39 am to TheBigHurt
Lea coaches himself right out of 2 wins that year. Bama- fakes a fg when it’s obvious “faking” distance. That stupid arse wildcat with Spencer ware on 4th down. They put 11 in the box and everyone knew ware would keep it. Fate was sealed when he bobbled the snap. Just give it to Hill.
That peach bowl was Les’s “hold my beer” after bama. Just end the game by pounding hill after the 1st down completion. Boyd hits a damn 4th and 17. I was so hammered I got caught by a dad eating his kid’s popcorn.
That peach bowl was Les’s “hold my beer” after bama. Just end the game by pounding hill after the 1st down completion. Boyd hits a damn 4th and 17. I was so hammered I got caught by a dad eating his kid’s popcorn.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:48 am to HailHailtoMichigan!
correct, after jeremy hill had been killing it all game.
frick you les
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Jeremy Hill, who rushed for 124 yards and 2 touchdowns on 12 carries
frick you les
This post was edited on 8/28/25 at 9:50 am
Posted on 8/28/25 at 9:56 am to GeauxPanthers2
quote:Shocker Captain Clutch Mettenberger didn’t come through.
We famously let Mett attempt a couple passes on our last drive before they took the lead instead of running the ball to kill clock.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 10:16 am to TheBigHurt
As we were leaving the stadium, I overheard two Clemson fans walking down the ramp next to me saying "we finally won a big one".
I was so livid. We didn't run hill at all in the 4th quarter. He had 12 carries for 124 yards, 10.3 average, and 2 TDs.
We got the ball twice in the 4th quarter.
We used 2:19 seconds and 1:08 seconds respectfully.
On our last drive, we had 2nd and 2 and third and 2 at our own 47 with two incomplete passes. Burned zero time, didn't force Clemson to use any timeouts, and punted. Clemson used all three timeouts on their last drive.
It was a masterclass in coaching.
9:26 Clemson scored a FG
7:07 We went 3 and out (Ware run, Mett pass, Mett sacked, punt)
2:47 Clemson scored a TD, missed the 2pt
1:39 We went 3 and out (Mett pass for 8, incomplete, incomplete, punt)
0:00 Clemson hit a walkoff FG in 1:08 seconds
I was so livid. We didn't run hill at all in the 4th quarter. He had 12 carries for 124 yards, 10.3 average, and 2 TDs.
We got the ball twice in the 4th quarter.
We used 2:19 seconds and 1:08 seconds respectfully.
On our last drive, we had 2nd and 2 and third and 2 at our own 47 with two incomplete passes. Burned zero time, didn't force Clemson to use any timeouts, and punted. Clemson used all three timeouts on their last drive.
It was a masterclass in coaching.
9:26 Clemson scored a FG
7:07 We went 3 and out (Ware run, Mett pass, Mett sacked, punt)
2:47 Clemson scored a TD, missed the 2pt
1:39 We went 3 and out (Mett pass for 8, incomplete, incomplete, punt)
0:00 Clemson hit a walkoff FG in 1:08 seconds
Posted on 8/28/25 at 11:33 am to TheBigHurt
Not giving Jeremy Hill the ball at least once on that last series may have been the Stupidest Decision in History.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:08 pm to TheBigHurt
Why did we not run Jeremy Hill more that game? That was so dumb. He was tearing up Clemson's Defense.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:09 pm to wesman21
Les did that verse Clemson and Notre Dame where those were bowl games we should have won and blew.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:30 pm to GeauxPanthers2
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We famously let Mett attempt a couple passes on our last drive before they took the lead instead of running the ball to kill clock.
Les was probably over correcting from the Alabama game. He ran it three times and missed the fg and then bama scored. He got crushed for not throwing it then so he was not going to let that happen again. But at 2nd and 2 you have a good chance to pick it up on two downs.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 12:41 pm to Saunson69
i live in SC amongst the clemps. i always give Les credit for their rise by giving them that game into the next level. they did knock nicky out 2x during their run, which i’m thankful. When they start popping off about Sat…..
‘look, this game is important, but mot as much as last time, win or lose, we’ll geaux thru the gantlet, yall go play your pansies and maybe we’ll meet up again when it really counts”
they fold…… they dont have a comeback
‘look, this game is important, but mot as much as last time, win or lose, we’ll geaux thru the gantlet, yall go play your pansies and maybe we’ll meet up again when it really counts”
they fold…… they dont have a comeback
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:48 pm to bdavids09
Agreed. The biggest mistake in that sequence against Bama was not going for it on 4th down.
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was 4th and 5? With the way Mett was slinging it that night, you 100% go for it there. In today's football driven by analytics, there wouldn't even be the thought of kicking. It was a 45-yard field goal attempt that would have only put you up 6 points. Made zero sense to kick, especially when you had an average kicker at best.
I can't remember exactly, but I think it was 4th and 5? With the way Mett was slinging it that night, you 100% go for it there. In today's football driven by analytics, there wouldn't even be the thought of kicking. It was a 45-yard field goal attempt that would have only put you up 6 points. Made zero sense to kick, especially when you had an average kicker at best.
Posted on 8/28/25 at 3:49 pm to how333
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Think 2019
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