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re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:47 pm to Champagne
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:47 pm to Champagne
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But, answer this for us, if you will. Did you agree with Miles being fired
No. I wanted him gone after A&M in 2015.
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If so, then you agreed with the NegaTigers
No.there is a difference between admitting a tenure should be over and constantly bitching during his entire tenure.
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You see, the Negas were able to identify ALL of Miles's deficiencies just a bit more early than YOU identified his deficiencies.
No they didn't identify deficiencies earlier. I just know enough about cfb to recognize every single coach in cfb has deficiencies. Even with Miles' deficiencies he was having one of the most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY. I've always said miles had flaws, but so does every coach.
Nick Saban maybe the greatest coach of all time and loses to an inferior team every year. He does that while having, BY FAR, the most talent in cfb.
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course, you may have opposed Miles being fired. You may wish that Miles were still the coach. That is a reasonable opinion. HOWEVER, that opinion is shared by very few.
Wasnt opposed.
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:47 pm to Gray Tiger
What will you think if coach O has a higher winning pct when it's all said and do e?
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:50 pm to Gray Tiger
Can you explain how a great coach allows 17 seconds to run off the clock before calling timeout on the play before he was calling for JJ to spike it?
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:53 pm to RedTigerRulz
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you're making a blanket statement....without facts to back it up. You like facts. You can't simply slam a majority of the fanbase because you dislike their take on Les Miles.
Im not using their dislike of Miles as the sole reason.
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but I've noticed the Les supporters never, ever resist that shiny hook
You mean just like the miles haters did for the last decade?
If you started a pro miles thread during his tenure there were multiple posters that couldnt let a positive miles thread pass without shitting on him.
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They ALWAYS rush into the thread to defend the man's honor
I dont DEFEND miles. I merely state facts about his tenure at lsu.
Its not my fault that most stats and facts about miles' tenure doesnt support the opinion that miles was a bad coach.
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I'm not saying I've never done it but I try to stay out of the lovefest threads to avoid the inevitable conflict that follows.
You dont participate in them because they no longer exist. The only reason posters start Miles threads is to bash him and his tenure.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 6:57 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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Exactly. You have lsu fans and lsu posters that shite on our own accomplishments just because they dont like the coach.
That is a pretty negative view. I think everyone was happy with his accomplishments I just think the ones that know the game realize he should have had more accomplishments. How many games was LSU out talented and how many times did we watch inferior talent stay in games because of his coaching style?
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:21 pm to Champagne
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Yes, Miles is such a great coach, and this is known by all, and the reason why we know this is because schools are fighting each other to hire him, including LSU.
Again,Miles is 63 years old. please show me where all these 63 year old coaches are getting offers from major programs,in the last decade.
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LSU wants Miles back, right? I mean, if Coach O can't turn things around in a season or two, you want Miles back, righ
Just because I don't want Miles back doesnt mean i think he was a shitty coach or that his tenure here wasnt elite.
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Oh, Miles is unemployed? Nobody has hired him
Again, please let me in on all these 63 year old coaches getting offers from major programs. There are 2 coaches older than Miles in cfb.
If he were 50-55 his resume alone would get him in at a p5 program.
He was better than his predecessor at every stop and had one of the most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY.
You clearly dont understand the retread nature of cfb if you think that resume wouldnt get offers if he were younger.
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Age Discrimination" as the reason, because that's a completely speculative reason.
Again,show me all these 63 year old coaches getting offers from major programs in the last decade and then you can call it speculative.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:25 pm to Champagne
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the Negas were crazy and wrong about wanting him gone just a bit longer because my slightly later timing on when Miles should have been gone is correct".
Holy shite. Yeah it took miles having one of the most successful tenures in SEC HISTORY and the best in lsu history for the NegaTigers to be right.
You can say just about any cfb hc needs to go and you'd end up being right. 99% of cfb HCS dont leave on their terms.
If I keep telling people its Wednesday,soon enough I'll be right.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:30 pm to dljtigers
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With the talent LSU had the last few years,
You clearly havent been keeping up with recent draft classes. Bama's 2016 class alone was almost as big as our 2015&2016 classes combined.
The best coach of our generation(saban)with by far the most talent(6 straight #1 classes) loses to an inferior team every year.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:33 pm to Topwater Trout
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Why do you defend a coach you said should be fired?
This board really needs to learn that FACTS arent defending. They are reality.
Its not defending when I say Miles had one of the most accomplished tenures in SEC HISTORY. Its a fact
I'm not defending when I say Miles had the most successful tenure in lsu history. Its a fact.
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You did say you thought he should be fired correct?
There is a huge difference between recognizing its time for a change and shitting on him,his tenure,lsu's accomplishments.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:35 pm to chadr07
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Then why didn't any team hire him this year?
How many P5 programs were open?
He is 63. I'm still waiting for someone to show me all these 63 year old coaches getting offers from major programs.
He has been out of work for 6 months.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:35 pm to Nado Jenkins83
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What will you think if coach O has a higher winning pct when it's all said and do e?
Ill be very happy. I hope O surpasses Miles accomplishments.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:38 pm to Topwater Trout
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I just think the ones that know the game realize he should have had more accomplishment
There is about 5 cfb head coaches with more accomplishments than lsu during Miles tenure.
Saban loses to an inferior team every year. It's no some huge failure of lesser coaches lose 2-3.
There are also about 4 coaches that could come in and be a sure fire upgrade.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:40 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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admitting a tenure should be over
So you ADMIT that you determined that Miles should have been fired at that specific point in time?
You became a NegaTiger wanting the coach fired the MOMENT you admitted to yourself that Miles's tenure needed to be terminated.
The rest of your excuse/ post is engaging in Mental Gymnastics worthy of intercollegiate competition.
You can't be a PosiTiger and at the same time want the Coach FIRED, daddy. That does not compute.
At the moment you wanted Miles fired, you joined the NegaTigers.
END OF DISCUSSION
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:45 pm to Champagne
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So you ADMIT that you determined that Miles should have been fired at that specific point in time?
Yeah.
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The rest of your excuse/ post is engaging in Mental Gymnastics worthy of intercollegiate competition.
Only if youre football ignorant.
There is difference between shitting on a coach and his tenure and recognizing its time to move on. The fact that you dont know this is telling.
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At the moment you wanted Miles fired, you joined the NegaTigers.
END OF DISCUSSION
I was never a positiger. I stated FACTS about miles tenure. Youre not being a positiger when you post Miles win% rankings. Youre being someone that lives it reality.
If I say the moon revolves around the earth.... am I defending the earth?
Im sorry that you dont like facts about miles tenure.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 7:48 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:48 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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I dont DEFEND miles.
good god, your IQ is potato
Posted on 4/6/17 at 7:50 pm to Lester Earl
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good god, your IQ is potato
Stating facts isnt defending dumbass and my iq and degree shits on yours.
Stating Win % isnt defending. It a fact.
Stating accomplishments from 2005-2015 isnt defending. Its called reality.
Those numbers and accomplishments arent subjective.
Only a dumbass would say that facts are defending. But hey you've established yourself as one of the dumbest posters on here.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 7:52 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:21 pm to ell_13
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Is the guy who still wants to coach supposed to say he's gotten worse?
There are more than just those two options... He could say nothing at all with respect to that in a public interview.
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:24 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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You clearly havent been keeping up with recent draft classes. Bama's 2016 class alone was almost as big as our 2015&2016 classes combined.
Well aware of Bama's recruiting as is the whole nation. Also well aware of Bama's accomplishments the last few years and LSU's. Stand by what I stated in that CLM underperformed big time. He was too stubborn to change his offense and kept his friend at OC 3 years too long. Its over but it happened.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 8:26 pm
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:51 pm to dljtigers
Being 63 has nothing to do with Miles getting a job!!!!There are a lot of Schools that would sell their soul for a coach that could give them a good 5 to 10 year run!
Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:52 pm to Champagne
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Those mythical fans you say never gave him a chance don't count.
Why is that? There are plenty of people that post here on the rant that have stated they disliked the guy from the get go and never ever rooted for him. Like it or not, those people, who would be considered Negatigers, are fans just like you and I. There's nothing "mythical" about them.
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The rational Negatigers were only shortly ahead of you in realizing LSU and Coach Miles needed to part ways. By "only shortly" I mean one or two seasons.
In your first post that I responded to, not once did you say "rational Negatigers." I would consider someone that decided in 2014 or 2015 to be rational. But the "negatigers that wanted him gone anytime before the 2014 season, in my opinion, is a fricking loon.
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So, you finally came around to the NegaTiger view of Coach Miles - that it was time for LSU and he to part ways because of performance issues.
I don't believe I've ever come around to the Negatigers view of Miles. When I think of "Negatigers", I think of some of these idiots who pissed and moaned about his every move, no matter if it was successful or not. I believe after the November 2015 collapse, It was probably time for a change. Then after the piss poor way Alleva handled his role during that November, I was certain that it was time for Miles to step down or be fired.
There was no way, in my opinion that Alleva and Miles were going to be able to have a healthy relationship going forward. And any success Miles and the team were to have would be brushed to the side while any negatives would be magnified. There was no way to win under these circumstances.
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