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re: Les Miles never ceases to amaze me

Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:57 pm to
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 8:57 pm to
The most important thing is that we agree on the big issues AND we are on the same sheet of music NOW.

Go Coach O.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:07 pm to
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There are a lot of Schools that would sell their soul for a coach that could give them a good 5 to 10 year run!


Name a power 5 school that has hired a man 60+ years old.
Posted by EyeOfTheTiger14
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:20 pm to
All of them are probably coaching somewhere. Youre saying Nick Saban would have a hard time finding work if he didnt have a job. I understand where youre coming from but I think every coach/opportunity is different.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:28 pm to
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Saban loses to an inferior team every year.


Wrong..not this year he didnt. Clemson was every bit as good as Bama this year.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:37 pm to
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Name a power 5 school that has hired a man 60+ years old.



I'll give you and rick a scenario you can mull over you dumb fukstick.

Bill Snyder is 77 years old and he is still going strong at K-State. He's kept them pretty relevant his entire tenure at KSU.

If that dude quit K-State tomorrow, I GUARANTEE you schools (and their would be some big time programs) would be busting his door down to come take over their programs.
The man is 14 years older than Lester and can coach circles around him and would be hired up in a NY second if the opportunity presented itself.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 9:45 pm
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:50 pm to
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If that dude quit K-State tomorrow, I GUARANTEE you schools (and their would be some big time programs) would be busting his door down to come take over their programs.
The man is 14 years older than Lester and can coach circles around him and would be hired up in a NY second if the opportunity presented itself.
Miles has a much better resume (Snyder 3 top 20, 0 top 10 finishes since Miles era) and ridiculous to even bring this up.
tRant would've never even hired him back like State.
Posted by RedTigerRulz
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 9:53 pm to
I'm simply pointing out that the age excuse where Miles is concerned is total BS. He hasn't been hired because schools saw what he did here the last few years and have decided to pass rather than fight a stubborn jack-arse.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:24 pm to
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I'm simply pointing out that the age excuse where Miles is concerned is total BS.


Yes, of course it is. Ignore those who say differently because they claim to have the ability to read the minds of every Athletic Director in the world. BUT, their confidence in their own mental powers is amusing, because it's so absurd.



Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:46 pm to
Look butch Davis was hired at 65 this year and he hasn't done anything in over 18 years. Miles is jobless partly because it's a good business decision and partly because nobody wants him. He's done he's been done for awhile now, and yes he's had success but he's never been considered a top level coach.
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 10:50 pm to
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Look butch Davis was hired at 65 this year a


Thank you for pointing this out. I didn't know this.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:07 pm to
No problem, there was also a 79 year old hired at a smaller school this year. This fantasy that his age has anything to do with it is just ppl who knight for him doing what they've always done, make excuses for him. Guys like Nick Saban Bill Bellicheck, Mike Shannahan, Steve Spurrier, Bill Cowher and Tom Coughlin are all older and could have pretty much any job they wanted, college or pro.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 11:25 pm
Posted by Champagne
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Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:10 pm to
I don't know why you got a downvote. I guess that The Truth is not always universally popular.

Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:12 pm to
You're on the rant, some of these ppl have huge issues, especially with the truth. They also have no problem ripping on 18 year old kids but throw a fit if you second guess grown men millionaires.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 11:14 pm
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:15 pm to
Oh yea and I have a couple stalkers. I could be giving money away and I'd have a downvote.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:27 pm to
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EyeOfTheTiger14


You didn't answer my question.
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:37 pm to
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Madking


That is speculation.
How many power 5 positions came open this year?
Name a power 5 program that hired a 60+ year old man to head up a vacant position.

Let's take another step. How many college positions came open this year?
Were Shannahan, Spurrier, Cowher, Coughlin hired for any of them?
Saban, Bellicheck are currently employed so they do not fit the example.




Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/6/17 at 11:42 pm to
That's not the point. Those guys are always contacted about jobs they just don't want to coach anymore, or like you said have jobs. It doesn't eliminate the fact that guys like Pete Carroll (65) can have any job they choose. And you can't judge this on a 1 year timeline. Off the top of my head I know Bill Walsh at Stanford, Lou Holtz at USC, Barry Alvarez at wisky (twice over 60) and Steve Spurrier at USC were all 60 and hired at power 5 schools so saying it doesn't happen is wrong.
This post was edited on 4/6/17 at 11:47 pm
Posted by Gray Tiger
Prairieville, LA
Member since Jan 2004
36512 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:03 am to
If older coaches are such a premium, why didn't Texas hire one of the legends you named? They have the money.Texas, if they wanted, could have matched any NFL or broadcast salary.

Do you actually think that Spurrier is in demand? Wouldn't a reasonable person use him as a reason for a college to NOT hire someone over 60?

Saying "could have" is pretty damned un-provable.


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:13 am to
Ok you're still not picking up what I'm putting down. Spurrier isn't interested in recruiting and coaching right now. If he was he'd def be in demand. We are talking about a certain level of coach, their age and what types of jobs they'd be in demand for. Coughlin was contacted by Jacksonville this winter Shannahan was coaching a couple years ago and was contacted for jobs until it was known he would he assisting his son. Pete Carroll at 65 is about as hot a candidate as could he if he left Seattle and there were rumors he's starting to get tired of NFL players so it may yet happen even at an older age. The point is Miles commands none of this, hell like I said Butch Davis (65) got a job this year. Even small schools who Miles was reported to be in contention for have taken other guys yet an older Davis got one. Les Miles's resume is better than he is, there's no coach on earth who has his credentials at a place as big as LSU who wouldn't have been 1st on the Texas list and every other program out there. Yet he's at home twiddling his thumbs an making stupid statements hoping someone is dumb enough to buy his same old line.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 12:16 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70676 posts
Posted on 4/7/17 at 12:20 am to
You know he went 2-2 and faced zero ranked teams last year. Ed Ogeron, who's never been considered a great head coach took the same team without anytime to make changes and an offense from the 1970s and not only did he improve the team overall but he set records that Miles never came close to in 12 years with better talent. While this was unfolding before our eyes and even now still, people are taking up for him and defending him... It is truly mind blowing.
This post was edited on 4/7/17 at 12:31 am
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