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re: Laird 2 hole why???

Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:26 pm to
Posted by josh336
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:26 pm to
Trust me, I made this argument a week or two ago, no one here really has a good reason, all we can is trust PM, and hope he makes the right decisions in June
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:26 pm to
Yes, speed also. I think getting good jumps and taking good routes are more important than the other two though. Ofcourse that assumes the outfielder doesn't weigh 300 pounds and is reasonably athletic enough to play the position.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:28 pm to
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That's what I'm saying. It's not like Foster is batting 250 & Stevenson is batting 225. Foster is batting 354 & Stevenson is batting 191

Foster has less than 50 ABs and Mainieri may think his current average is more of an anomaly than we do.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:36 pm to
quote:


Trust me, I made this argument a week or two ago, no one here really has a good reason, all we can is trust PM, and hope he makes the right decisions in June

I wouldn't mind seeing them platoon to be honest, but it isn't difficult to see his reasoning without using the whole "he knows more than you" defense. It doesn't mean anyone is right or wrong. Either way, I don't think the decision on those two will be the deciding factor on how far this team goes.
Posted by doze4
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:45 pm to
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Foster has less than 50 ABs and Mainieri may think his current average is more of an anomaly than we do.


I understand that. But I also understand that if foster went 0 fer his next 40 at bats, he would still be batting at a higher % than Stevenson. That is not an exaggeration either.

Foster 17-48
Stevenson 17-89

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This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 11:54 pm
Posted by TigerCub
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 11:46 pm to
We can argue about it until we're blue in the face, but it's obvious that Mainieri thinks Stevenson's positive outwiegh Foster's positives. There is no right or wrong answer because both bring something to the table that the other doesn't. And I agree with what you said earlier, Rhymes is just as good an OF as Foster is now.

I think some of his thinking also goes back to last year and the incredibly slow footed OF we had to put out there.
Posted by MOT
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:03 am to
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I understand that. But I also understand that if foster went 0 fer his next 40 at bats, he would still be batting at a higher % than Stevenson. That is not an exaggeration either.

Obviously Foster wouldn't go 0-40 but the point is his sample size is still small enough that it may not be a representation of what he is really capable of. One bad series could drop him 50 or 60 points.

Again, I'm not saying whats right and whats wrong, just that it isn't as simple as looking at batting averages and saying Foster should be playing. Personally, I would platoon them based on the pitching matchup until either Stevenson's offense or Foster's defense proved to be too big of a disadvantage for the team, and then the other would play full time.
Posted by sunnydaze
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:21 am to
A mark laird thread never dies
Posted by LSU=Champions
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 12:23 am to
True dat.
Posted by dnm3305
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:31 am to
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Did I say that I wanted laird to bat 2nd?? NO I didn't




I figured I'd let the man who hasn't even lost 10 games yet make the decision of who bats where...


If you want to bitch about something, why don't you head over to the weekly 'bitch about Hawthorne' thread... I'm sure they'd love your expert analysis


Why are you such a dickhead? This is an opinion site where people come to bitch. No not everyone here is a coach, but alot of people that arent coaches still know the game very well. True, the Tigers are 49-8, that's not arguable and credit is due to Mainieri and his coaching staff, but that doesnt fricking explain why the starter with the lowest OBP is batting in the 2-hole. It's not a difficult game, and some logic should be used in this day and age of advanced technology. This isnt the 19th century. New stats and theories are set in baseballs foundation for now and moving forward. I want no other person coaching LSU baseball (or football for that matter), but it makes no sense having Laird in the 2-hole. There is not one single legitimate reason or explanation.
This post was edited on 5/23/13 at 7:33 am
Posted by LSUTygerFan
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 7:32 am to
I'm just glad we still have something to argue about with this team.
Posted by Choupique19
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:04 am to
quote:

Why are you such a dickhead? This is an opinion site where people come to bitch. No not everyone here is a coach, but alot of people that arent coaches still know the game very well


+1

Also, how else do fans get to learn? On here we can interact, state our opinions, discuss the pros and cons of the coaching moves, and sometimes, we even learn a little during the discussion. I may come in here and state, "No way Mark Laird should be batting in the 2 hole." Another poster may bring up some very valid points that I hadn't thought about as to why Coach Mainieri has him in that spot, and perhaps it changes a few opinions.

Of course, in 2 months worth of bickering on here, no one has yet to give a valid reason for Laird in the 2 hole, unless you count, "Coach Mainieri has won more national titles than you, so STFU."
Posted by Broham
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 10:03 am to
Good morning boys
Posted by tigerswin03
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Foster has less than 50 ABs and Mainieri may think his current average is more of an anomaly than we do
no... no way the coach knows more about his team than the rant.
Posted by upgrade
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:28 pm to
Stevenson is really bothering me at the plate.
Moore and Ross get back to back walks ahead of him.
Ross on four straight pitches.

What does he do, swing at the first two pitches.

Yes I know, I know, he ended up walking also, but that is just a terrible approach at the plate.

Posted by josh336
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Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:30 pm to
I noticed that too, terrible decision by him and then again by McMullen when he came up
Posted by Macintosh
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:30 pm to
I liked Foster at the 2 spot and put laird in the 9 hole.
Posted by Topwater Trout
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:34 pm to
Laird playing RF why? RF are suppose to have strong arms. I never see him reach the cut off man
Posted by josh336
baton rouge
Member since Jan 2007
81990 posts
Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:35 pm to
His throw to the cutoff man standing 90 feet from him was fricking terrible......similar to the one against Ole Miss game 2
Posted by Topwater Trout
Red Stick
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Posted on 5/23/13 at 8:41 pm to
Every throw I have seen him make us terrible. Definitely one of the weakest arms I've ever seen in the outfield
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