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re: Lack of Left Handed Pitching
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:23 pm to Godfather1
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:23 pm to Godfather1
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And yet he never fielded a roster that had zero left-handlers.
Again, I am not saying I agree or disagree
I am posting the reasoning given at the beginning of the season
Not having any LHP didn’t cost LSU winning it all, there were several factors across the board
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Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:25 pm to LSUJML
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Not having any LHP didn’t cost LSU winning it all
One could argue that being unable to hit LHP hurt LSU more than not having any LHP on staff.
Posted on 6/16/19 at 8:28 pm to Metaloctopus
Has anyone considered that the first time our batters faced a left handed pitcher this year was during a real game. We had no practices, scrimmages, or even a BP against a lefty during fall or spring practice. I've got to think that this contributed to the poor performances against left hand pitchers this season. What are yall's opinions about this?
Posted on 6/16/19 at 9:42 pm to Godfather1
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And yet he never fielded a roster that had zero left-handlers
Paul didn’t either.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:33 am to ScubaTiger
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Has anyone considered that the first time our batters faced a left handed pitcher this year was during a real game. We had no practices, scrimmages, or even a BP against a lefty during fall or spring practice. I've got to think that this contributed to the poor performances against left hand pitchers this season. What are yall's opinions about this?
My opinion is that LSU struggles every year against lefties, because we almost always seem to have a predominantly left handed lineup. I'm not saying it wouldn't have helped to have some left handed pitching to face in practice, but with our history of struggles against lefties, I think it shows the lack of a real hitting coach.
And that topic has already been beaten to death. LSU can recruit enough talent to mask underlying deficiencies. But we need a better hitting coach, who can really develop players, and not just go over scouting reports with them, and maybe have them watch videos.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:36 am to Metaloctopus
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But we need a better hitting coach, who can really develop players, and not just go over scouting reports with them, and maybe have them watch videos.
I'm not sure that those last two tasks are even being covered currently.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:37 am to Baseball Tiger 17
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Paul didn’t either.
OP acts like this shite happens every year. Paul has been at LSU over a decade and its never happened. It actually didn't happen this year either lol. Dumb thread is dumb
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:54 am to ProjectP2294
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I'm not sure that those last two tasks are even being covered currently.
So you think they get told to just go up there and hit. You don’t think they look at scouting reports or watch video?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 8:57 am to Baseball Tiger 17
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So you think they get told to just go up there and hit. You don’t think they look at scouting reports or watch video?
I don't think that the coaches and support staff they have attempting to help them in these areas are worth a shite at their jobs.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:01 am to ProjectP2294
I know for a fact they do these things. They have some of the highest resources available to do just this.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:03 am to ScubaTiger
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Has anyone considered that the first time our batters faced a left handed pitcher this year was during a real game. We had no practices, scrimmages, or even a BP against a lefty during fall or spring practice. I've got to think that this contributed to the poor performances against left hand pitchers this season. What are yall's opinions about this?
I agree with this early in the season but by the time they got into the middle SEC play they had seen plenty left handed pitching. The lineup was left handed dominant. Unfortunately this team was going to always be worse against lefties than righties.
No one truly knows if having a lefty arm on this team would have made a difference. They probably would have gotten into the same position. This team had a lot of flaws not just That one.
They didn’t have a complete infield in the field or in the batters box.
Cabrera didn’t take that next step. I think this is injury related.
Duplantis was streaky this season. His stats came out just like his previous years but he just wasn’t as consistent all season. He went through some slumps.
Watson never had any consistency at the plate.
Pitchers walked way too many and were Inconsistent.
You relied on true freshman starting pitchers and another coming off TJ. That’s not a recipe for a consistent weekend rotation.
Your best catcher was injured early on and when he came back took some time to get his legs under him behind the plate. He got a bad rep for not being able to throw guys out but I think he showed late in the season that’s fully healthy he is solid. Not Pap back there but his offense makes up the difference for sure.
The theme is they were an inconsistent flawed team from the start. Some of it is coaching. Some of it is the players. It all adds up to a rollercoaster season that was two wins short of Omaha. I want to win every year like everyone else but to make it to a super and consider the season a failure is good. Don’t settle for anything less but understand why you come up short. If you don’t understand why you can never know the how to fix the problem.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:05 am to Baseball Tiger 17
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I know for a fact they do these things. They have some of the highest resources available to do just this.
Then they need to get people in the program that are better at using the resources at their disposal.
When every game for every team we play is available online somewhere, there is no reason we should ever walk up to the plate as unprepared as we did at times last season.
That's a failure of the video coordinator, the hitting coach, and the head coach.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 9:08 am to ScubaTiger
Agree with this 100%.
Where else would you get batting practice against left handers?
Another consideration is hitting breaking pitches.
If all the batting practice occurs from the shortened pitchers mound that you see in batting practice prior to a game, when would you get batting practice against breaking balls from 60’? A ball breaks a lot different from 60’ than 45’
Where else would you get batting practice against left handers?
Another consideration is hitting breaking pitches.
If all the batting practice occurs from the shortened pitchers mound that you see in batting practice prior to a game, when would you get batting practice against breaking balls from 60’? A ball breaks a lot different from 60’ than 45’
Posted on 6/17/19 at 12:52 pm to ProjectP2294
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When every game for every team we play is available online somewhere, there is no reason we should ever walk up to the plate as unprepared as we did at times last season.
X 10 in game 2 of SR. That lefty looked like he was throwing invisible strikes to multiple LSU lefties. No exaggeration, it was like they could not see the ball coming at them.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:02 pm to lsutyger23
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Can’t tell me there wasn’t a lefty better than all the righties we recruited
Hard to believe that couldn't be the case after the initial wave of 5-6 high impact pitchers got DL'd, plus erratic performances from formerly injured pitchers. I'm writing 2019 off, yet just imagine if the 4 players hadn't returned that were drafted? Recruiting and development have to improve to keep LSU in a dominant position. Looking at Louisville at the CWS, that teams is very solid with athletic guys. LSU should be able to do better than what we are seeing. And, no, I'm not a guy that thinks LSU should make the CWS every season into perpetuity.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:06 pm to tirebiter
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X 10 in game 2 of SR. That lefty looked like he was throwing invisible strikes to multiple LSU lefties. No exaggeration, it was like they could not see the ball coming at them.
That said lefty showed Arkansas that they can’t hit worth shite. He’s pretty damn good.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:07 pm to LSU FAMILY
quote:In some practices I attended last Fall both Cabrera and Beloso threw some BP.
Where else would you get batting practice against left handers?
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:31 pm to LSU FAMILY
It is wise to have a couple of quality leftys on your active roster, baseball stats indicate that there are several situations that arise over 50 games that the odds favor lefty vs lefty match-ups.
You also want your hitters to see lefties in practice, no question.
You also want your hitters to see lefties in practice, no question.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:46 pm to Baseball Tiger 17
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That said lefty showed Arkansas that they can’t hit worth shite. He’s pretty damn good.
No doubt, nor was I implying otherwise. For people on here that wouldn't give FSU a shot at winning the CWS is laughable.
Posted on 6/17/19 at 1:46 pm to Baseball Tiger 17
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That said lefty showed Arkansas that they can’t hit worth shite. He’s pretty damn good.
No doubt, nor was I implying otherwise. For people on here that wouldn't give FSU a shot at winning the CWS is laughable.
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