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Kelly: LSU expects 10 of top 11 players on defense in terms of snap count to return

Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:50 am
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52427 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:50 am
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Major Burns, Greg Penn III, Harold Perkins, Andre' Sam, Sage Ryan, Maason Smith, Sai'vion Jones, Omar Speights, Zy Alexander, Bradyn Swinson and Jordan Jefferson make up the top 11 snap getters for the Tigers this season, according to Pro Football Focus.

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Sam, Speights and Jefferson are not eligible to return in 2024. But assuming that Kelly's calculations don't include players who can't come back for another year, Mekhi Wingo, Javien Toviano and Whit Weeks would be the next three players in terms of highest snap count who are eligible to return next season, per PFF.


Apparently, the staff believed Smith and/or Wingo were returning but neither did. Also, Sage Ryan entered the portal for a bit.

I support Kelly a ton and he has done great but not sure why we say stuff like this unnecessarily if we aren't 100% sure. That's Ed O territory.
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"We were taking numbers on defense to right the ship, relative to our defensive structure last year. We’re not going to have to do that. We’re counting 10 of our 11 players with the most snaps coming back next year. Some may say that’s not a great thing, but we think it is because we have experience. We didn’t have that last year.”


per On3
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 1:38 pm
Posted by geauxnavybeatbama
Member since Jul 2013
25134 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:52 am to
I don't claim to be very smart, but by my calculations that is 7 of the top 11 players
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30126 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 11:54 am to
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I support Kelly a ton and he has done great but not sure why we say stuff like this unnecessarily if we aren't 100% sure. That's Ed O territory.


So saying you expect 10 of 11 and get 9 of 11 is Ed O territory?



One player unexpectedly not doing what is probably best for his career is not Ed O territory, my man.
Posted by J2thaROC
Member since May 2018
13009 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:05 pm to
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One player unexpectedly not doing what is probably best for his career is not Ed O territory, my man.


Ed O territory is 45 year old skanky sluts
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52427 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:11 pm to
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So saying you expect 10 of 11 and get 9 of 11 is Ed O territory?


He actually didn't even just say it was "expected."

He said they were counting 10 of 11 on defense who would return, that's inaccurate just based on players who have no eligibility remaining.

Even when adjusted for that, it's still only 9 of 11 and another went into the portal but later came back out.

It just isn't good to give "false hope" in my opinion because we aren't returning 10/11 of the defense, it's more like 7.
Posted by Reeaholic
Moss Bluff
Member since Jun 2019
747 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:12 pm to
I thought his statement was in terms of the bowl game and not next year. I may not be remembering it right tho
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15780 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:14 pm to
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That's Ed O territory


Dude shut the frick up you idiot.
Posted by CajunDan
Georgia
Member since Jan 2015
771 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:25 pm to
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Apparently, the staff believed Smith and/or Wingo were returning but neither did.


You should contact an attorney...
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
25945 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:26 pm to
quote:

He actually didn't even just say it was "expected."

He said they were counting 10 of 11 on defense who would return, that's inaccurate just based on players who have no eligibility remaining.

Even when adjusted for that, it's still only 9 of 11 and another went into the portal but later came back out.

It just isn't good to give "false hope" in my opinion because we aren't returning 10/11 of the defense, it's more like 7.



doubling down on a shite take, nice
Posted by nwallb2
Member since Jun 2018
746 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:28 pm to
gotta remember coaches are dealing with agents in addition to families now. Entire new coaching stuff coming in too. The math becomes a lot more complicated with so many factors.
Posted by BayouCowboy
Member since Dec 2012
14404 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:33 pm to
quote:

He actually didn't even just say it was "expected."

He said they were counting 10 of 11 on defense who would return, that's inaccurate just based on players who have no eligibility remaining.

Even when adjusted for that, it's still only 9 of 11 and another went into the portal but later came back out.

It just isn't good to give "false hope" in my opinion because we aren't returning 10/11 of the defense, it's more like 7.

How often do these kids say one thing and do something else?
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
31683 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:37 pm to
The staff can advise these kids all they want but when they have others in their ear selling them to move on, it’s hard to go against it.

The only benefit to Smith leaving, for his sake, is to just take your shot before another injury occurs. Other than that, his move make no sense. His tape is bad, and he needed one solid season from start to finish to be considered a 2-3 round pick.

He’d be lucky to get drafted now.
Posted by eetiger
Baton Rouge via Eunice
Member since Mar 2006
1752 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:38 pm to
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45 year old skanky sluts


Where can I find those?

Asking for a friend.
Posted by BilbeauTBaggins
probably stuck in traffic
Member since May 2021
4323 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:41 pm to
Family probably talked to Maason and said he needs to take his chance now. 4th position coach in 4 years (including HS) has to be frustrating.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29380 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 12:50 pm to
He was talking about for the bowl game jackass .
Now return to secrant and troll Aggie
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 12:51 pm
Posted by mdomingue
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2010
30126 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:07 pm to
quote:

quote:

So saying you expect 10 of 11 and get 9 of 11 is Ed O territory?



He actually didn't even just say it was "expected."

He said they were counting 10 of 11 on defense who would return, that's inaccurate just based on players who have no eligibility remaining.

Even when adjusted for that, it's still only 9 of 11 and another went into the portal but later came back out.

It just isn't good to give "false hope" in my opinion because we aren't returning 10/11 of the defense, it's more like 7.





Now you're coming across as not just dumb but also soft.
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29380 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:09 pm to
It’s not even what Kelly was discussing. Of course we weren’t getting back that many guys for this season just based on eligibility.

He said it in a presser before the bowl game . He said they were expecting to have all our starters but one available for the bowl game
I think zye was the one we knew we wouldn’t have or he thought we weren’t gonna have sage at that time
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 1:11 pm
Posted by Tigerpride18
Lakewood Colorado
Member since Sep 2017
29380 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:12 pm to
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I thought his statement was in terms of the bowl game and not next year. I may not be remembering it right tho


You’re 100% correct and nobody should even respond to this thread in any other way now

I’m not gonna dig up the press conference but someone else can
This post was edited on 1/10/24 at 1:14 pm
Posted by SidewalkTiger
Midwest, USA
Member since Dec 2019
52427 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:16 pm to
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He was talking about for the bowl game jackass .


Incorrect.

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"We were taking numbers on defense to right the ship, relative to our defensive structure last year. We’re not going to have to do that. We’re counting 10 of our 11 players with the most snaps coming back next year. Some may say that’s not a great thing, but we think it is because we have experience. We didn’t have that last year.”


On3
Posted by jmon
Mandeville, LA
Member since Oct 2010
8406 posts
Posted on 1/10/24 at 1:18 pm to
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That's Ed O territory.


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Ed O territory = ONLY 38 scholarship players two years removed from a Natty
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