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Lgrnwd
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Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys

Don’t under estimate the value in that. These guys will play hard for their state and be 100% committed to the team. Meanwhile other big programs will be fielding teams full of mercenaries.


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Don’t under estimate the value in that.


I don't think the value can be overstated, TBH.


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GreatLakesTiger24
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re: Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
it sounds like cliche coach-speak but i do think there's value to this.

at this moment we need to get guys who WANT to be here. if that means filling the roster with some 3* in spots where we'd have 4/5* with Ed, so be it. things will work themselves out in the long term and we will get top guys again.


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I think the longer value in this is something that isn’t discussed enough. These guys are still followed by their hometowns, high schools, and former teammates. These guys will be on the walls in the gyms/locker rooms wearing LSU uniforms. They’ll come back to games and town wearing LSU gear. They’ll have friends and family that are future recruits. It just builds LSU loyalty in every nook and cranny in the state and it can only help.


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Foucha has been dying to play for lsu for years.

A senior safety who has been through the sec battles. He is a solid little safety.


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msizzle08
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Per capita Louisiana puts more players in NFL than any other state. Those 3 and 4 stars in the boot are better than those 4 and 5 in other states.


Fightin Okra
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re: Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
Funny how a guy from up North seems to make this his first priority. Shows you how everyone knows how talented LA players are


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Multiple One of us! We can’t lose!!!


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Funny how a guy from up North seems to make this his first priority. Shows you how everyone knows how talented LA players are


It was Saban's emphasis as well. And DiNardo's. It's no secret that if you lock down Louisiana and steal a few from Texas, Florida and elsewhere there's a good chance your team will have an abundance of talent.


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Dynamis
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If Cain is your example it would be better if he built the team with "Boot guys" that actually look like SEC caliber players. Or maybe just focus on keeping the "Boot guys" that are already on the team.


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re: Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
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I think the longer value in this is something that isn’t discussed enough. These guys are still followed by their hometowns, high schools, and former teammates. These guys will be on the walls in the gyms/locker rooms wearing LSU uniforms. They’ll come back to games and town wearing LSU gear. They’ll have friends and family that are future recruits. It just builds LSU loyalty in every nook and cranny in the state and it can only help.




It also means that you have 15ish guys every year that are going to commit early and not need constant attention in order to stay that way. O was a very good recruiter but it always felt like he was wasting time going after the biggest fish possible instead of just taking the guy in his backyard that would have committed on the spot.


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ffishstik
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Funny, was just talking about this with my son(LSU freshman). "Putting up a fence" around Louisiana isn't about chasing the 4-5 star recruits that everyone wants. You take the solid 3 star guys and it builds a pipeline to those schools. Players from those schools are more likely to follow friends from that school. The HS coaches appreciate that you show interest in their players beyond just the ones that the whole country wants, which gives you an edge with those future 4-5 stars.And, the obvious that has already been stated, those players are less likely to transfer once they are here and will play with more pride for the home team.

It just makes too much sense.


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I like 'boot' guys. I also like 'Texas', 'Alabama' and 'Florida' guys.

Don't know why, but I'm not real fond of Mississippi guys. Maybe it's growing up right on the border. Come over to buy beer (18 state) and seemed to hang out a little too long.


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Nix to Twillie
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re: Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
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Putting up a fence" around Louisiana isn't about chasing the 4-5 star recruits that everyone wants.


It mostly is, though.


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Nix to Twillie
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it sounds like cliche coach-speak


At least someone acknowledged it.


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Salviati
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These kind of threads are mostly about feels and little about facts.
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"Putting up a fence" around Louisiana isn't about chasing the 4-5 star recruits that everyone wants. You take the solid 3 star guys and it builds a pipeline to those schools.
2019 was not won with 3 stars.

National championships in general are not won with 3-star players. The correlation between the amount of blue-chip players on a team and the likelihood for winning national championships has been repeatedly established. More stars generally means more trophies.

Pipelines are mostly a myth. You cannot take all of the Louisiana 3-star players. So what does the HS coach think when LSU fails to offer his current 3 star? Moreover, you'll be hard pressed to find a player whose primary consideration for choosing a team is whether they have a HS teammate on the team.

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the obvious that has already been stated, those players are less likely to transfer once they are here and will play with more pride for the home team.
Five LSU WRs are in the transfer portal. Three are from Louisiana.


Nix to Twillie
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These kind of threads are mostly about feels and little about facts.





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ffishstik
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2019 was not won with 3 stars.


Missing the point entirely. Building the relationships helps give you an edge to KEEP those 4-5 stars here. You say that 2019 was not won with local 3 star players. Justin Jefferson and Clyde Edwards Helaire say hello. And, my son played at Catholic and I can tell you that it matters seeing your former teammates and alum playing for the Tigers. Clyde's success at LSU did not hurt with recruiting players like Emery Jones this year.

But, yes, getting the star recruits also matters. On those 4-5 star kids, how many players from Louisiana have contributed to Saban's success at Alabama? The answer is "a lot". Do what it takes to keep those kids here and you strengthen your team and weaken your biggest rival, who also has to be concerned with what is going on in Georgia and Texas because Alabama HAS to recruit those states (and Florida).
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TigerBait225
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Agreed. Those guys go back and tell the guys at their high school they need to be at LSU. Need to OWN the state, keep 95% of the top talent in Louisiana


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