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Soup Sammich
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Member since Aug 2015
2591 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
Who do y’all think we lose? I can’t remember who all is draft eligible.
I’m gonna give my best guess.

Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder
Delpit- first rounder
Clyde- no need in waiting another year

Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens
Moss
Shelvin
Cushenberry
Queen

Don’t know what to think:
Ingram
Charles

Tory Carter- not really much playing time or position on this team, is he a graduate transfer prospect?


ROPO
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Member since Jul 2016
1731 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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A few people named Burrow. I think it was McShay that had him as a udfa or 7th round rated qb if he had left early as a junior. Now hes about to be the first or second pick overall.

Think he benefited from coming back? He’s not any bigger or faster as someone said earlier.


Preach


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LSUgrad08112
Member since May 2016
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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Jester

Why are you such a perpetually outraged bitch? Is this your way of trying to look like you’re tight with the players or something? You do your whiny tryhard tough guy shtick in every single thread that pops up about certain players


ROPO
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Member since Jul 2016
1731 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
Delpit, Jefferson and Clyde should go. Delpit will go 1st round, although he would have been a top 10 pick had he balled out and not made business decisions. Jefferson is a 1-2 rounder and CLyde is gone by round 3 and is a RB.

Chaisson is gone, even thought he'll fall toround 2 because of lack of production. He'll have a solid NFL career but would actually financially benefit by coming back (but that will fall on deaf ears - HE GONE).

Everybody else should come back. Every. single. one. of them can improve their draft stock (either by moving up or getting drafted). Players don't get it but that is so important, both immediately in terms of compensation and long ter in terms of your team being invested in you.


WMTigerFAN
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West Monroe
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
I really like Jefferson but I see him going in the middle rounds at best. Needs a pro day.


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ecb
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.


Jester
New Orleans Pelicans Fan
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
30518 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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Why are you such a perpetually outraged bitch? Is this your way of trying to look like you’re tight with the players or something? You do your whiny tryhard tough guy shtick in every single thread that pops up about certain players




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TigerStripes30
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
i can get some of our skill players leaving early but the OL and DL is the one position you better be by far better than anyone else to leave early...there are a lot of them and there are a lot of dominant players on both sides that will go before you jus in those positions not to mention the skill positions that would go before you which makes you bottom of the list


rbdallas
LSU Fan
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
9511 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
There needs to be a more honest system in football with which to evaluate players.
Too many are influenced incorrectly by their so called agents who are in it only for themselves.
1st and 2nd rounders -
understood in most cases

3rd rounders- possibly
after that, return.


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Sailin Tiger
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Member since Jul 2014
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Fulton and Burrow send their regards...


This is only the second year starting for both of them. If you have been a standout starter for at 2 years in the SEC you are likely a draftable player whether those years were Junior/Senior or Sophmore/Junior.


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Tiger_n_ATL
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
Agree with you sir. Some juniors leaving early is perhaps the dumbest life decision they will ever make.


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TigerStripes30
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2011
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early

This is my opinion on the list

Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken - Most likely wont have a year like this year so yes i would say he is gone plus he would have a new QB
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder - based on potential
Delpit- first rounder - solely based on potential - hasnt shown much this year based on last year - still see him as a first for sure but late first
Clyde- no need in waiting another year - See Jefferson comment above


Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens - Needs to stay - He is a project in the NFL (To big for Safety and to small for LB so he would have to put weight on - id say stay but depends on what he grades out
Moss - Stay
Shelvin - Stay
Cushenberry - Stay even though he is good in our eyes he is a 5th rounder at best
Queen - id say late 3rd to 4th round - has the speed and thump but i believe one more year would push him into the early 2nd to late 2nd round


Don’t know what to think:
Ingram - Kinda same idk. But based off his past issues i believe if he keeps clean and puts a full year in that would do wonders for his draft stock
Charles - Same as above - Literally only played 6 games





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TigerStripes30
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Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2011
4214 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early

This is my opinion on the list

Most likely:
Jefferson- seen high some say could be 2nd WR taken - Most likely wont have a year like this year so yes i would say he is gone plus he would have a new QB
Chaisson- still likely 1st rounder - based on potential
Delpit- first rounder - solely based on potential - hasnt shown much this year based on last year - still see him as a first for sure but late first
Clyde- no need in waiting another year - See Jefferson comment above


Not sure what their draft prospects are but could see leaving:
Stevens - Needs to stay - He is a project in the NFL (To big for Safety and to small for LB so he would have to put weight on - id say stay but depends on what he grades out
Moss - Stay
Shelvin - Stay
Cushenberry - Stay even though he is good in our eyes he is a 5th rounder at best
Queen - id say late 3rd to 4th round - has the speed and thump but i believe one more year would push him into the early 2nd to late 2nd round


Don’t know what to think:
Ingram - Kinda same idk. But based off his past issues i believe if he keeps clean and puts a full year in that would do wonders for his draft stock
Charles - Same as above - Literally only played 6 games





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wasteland
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
Coming back he may have improved enough to be a late round pick but don't act like him getting drafted in the 6th would turn him into sonething he's not.


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Tiger_n_ATL
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Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.


Getting 450 K per year for one year and then getting cut from the team, is nothing because after taxes and other expenditures that 450 K is gone quick. That, Versus getting a contract for two or 3 million a year for five years, guaranteed, as long as you stay on the team. That is a long-term view, and Best for their future, instead of taking a short term view, and getting a bit of money that goes away quickly, only for a very short period of time. That is called poor financial planning.
This post was edited on 12/3 at 6:49 am


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H-Town Tiger
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Member since Nov 2003
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re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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Chaisson is gone, even thought he'll fall toround 2 because of lack of production. He'll have a solid NFL career but would actually financially benefit by coming back (but that will fall on deaf ears


He is currently mocked in the first, he could fall but that would be more because of work outs or something in the interview process. Pro scouts and coaches don’t look at production the way fans do. To us he’s been disappointing but they may see different things on tape. Regardless even if he did slip into the 2nd it only effects his initial contract. Players projected in the 2nd round should go anyway


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GatorRaiderBait
Member since Oct 2017
573 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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If, as a college junior you would have offered me a spot to make a team that would pay the league minimum of $450k? I would have left in a heartbeat. In 34 years of working I’ve never made $450k in a year....with a degree.



The point is he didn’t even stay on the squad or practice squad. If you look at his career earnings he has only made $100,000 in the NFL
This post was edited on 12/3 at 7:07 am


H-Town Tiger
Houston Astros Fan
Member since Nov 2003
51289 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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The point is he didn’t even stay on the squad or practice squad. If you look at his career earnings he has only made $100,000 in the NFL


The broader point is an extra year of college does not guarantee him a longer career. $100,000 is more than enough to continue is education for he could stay and get his degree crowd


GatorRaiderBait
Member since Oct 2017
573 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
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The broader point is an extra year of college does not guarantee him a longer career. $100,000 is more than enough to continue is education for he could stay and get his degree crowd


Like many other people in this thread have said, “ Joe says hello”


acoll6
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Member since Sep 2016
434 posts

re: Juniors making big mistakes by leaving early
didn't know nick saban was on TD


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