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re: Jordy colutta made a damning good point on his show this morning

Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
Posted by misey94
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:54 pm to
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what is more concerning to me is how does Blake Baker adjust to rushing QBs with speed. The USCe QB gave us fits running the ball, we lost to the TAMU QB running the ball and we have the most dynamic QB rusher in CFB coming in to BTR in two weeks.


We kept Dart under control enough. Milroe is a better runner, but he’s not as fast as Reed unless he gets clear in open field. We can probably use a more traditional zone with a spy or two to play him. Weeks did well vs Dart and Bama’s OL hasn’t been the strength it was expected to be in preseason (sound familiar).

A big key will be Zy holding up playing their freshman WR when we go to man, because their other guys are fairly ordinary. Their RBs aren’t amazing either. It’s really a two man game for them on offense right now.
Posted by Salviati
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:56 pm to
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10mill is a lot of money for a Coach who can’t teach a defense to adjust mid-game. I am fed-up with the arrogant, high-paid Brian Kelly.
Whoever in the he’ll downvoted this; so you like paying an incompetent Coach $10 million a year?
I downvoted your dumb arse.

No one wants to pay an incompetent coach $10 million per year.

BUT . . .

Coach Kelly is nowhere near incompetent. He's a damn good coach who has LSU trending in the right direction year over year.

The team still has some talent gaps, but those gaps are getting filled more and more each year.
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:57 pm to
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do you not think that the short fields that the defense kept getting and no rest could have played a large part in Reed's success?


No, because A&M had TD drives of 60 and 75 yards as well and only faced on 3rd down on those drives. The short fields only expedited the TDs, but LSU showed zero signs of being able to stop A&M once the QB change was made. The LSU players admitted they weren't prepared for that style of play and and the staff showed zero ability to adjust to it in the second half.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:58 pm to
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Whoever in the he’ll downvoted this; so you like paying an incompetent Coach $10 million a year?


I’m your huckleberry…because you’re an ignorant, over-emotional fool. See my earlier post for the full explanation on why your rant makes absolutely no sense.
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 12:59 pm to
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The LSU players admitted they weren't prepared for that style of play


which is obviously false since we have seen that style of play multiple times this year

Posted by Hot Carl
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:01 pm to
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He would have beat us with the pass.


Meh. He threw a really nice pass, but it was a great call that caught us off guard selling out for the run.

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.the guy threw passes in other games..


Not well, apparently. He was completing like 54% of his passes on the season. And with the way he can run, if he was a good passer, what the frick were they starting Weigman for?

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it's not like we was strictly a runner.


No, but that’s what he beat us with. I think if Weigman was out and we’d have prepared for Reed all week, we’d have won fairly easily (assuming Nuss doesn’t throw 3 picks on our side of the field again, but even so).

I remember what the OP/Jordy are referring to. It was right after that 3rd and goal play where it looked like Savion had just tackled the RB for a loss and they were gonna have to settle for a FG. My son and I were high-giving and yelling before we realized Reed had kept it for the easy touchdown.

I was trying to explain to my son just how good Reed was of holding that mesh point until Savion completely committed, then pulling it at the last second. It was hard to see with your naked eye in real time. I thought Kelly was asking Baker about the mesh and how long he waited to pull it. Like if that’s what happened, and Savion didn’t screw up—he has to commit eventually. And Baker just confirmed it with a “yep” or something.

And this is just a matter of interpretation or even simply semantics, but I took that exchange as more of “they got us” like on that specific play, not “we have no answer, we’re fricked, we’ve already lost.” I think they both got excited that we had gotten a big 3rd down stop only to be let down when they finally saw Reed pop out of the pile and into the end zone with the ball for 6.

Regardless, I’m on Team No fricking Excuse for not being prepared for the backup QB who had already played so much football and was such a different and harder to defend player than the starter. In another thread, I said I thought that if they were confident in their game plan for Weigman, we should have EXPECTED Reed to come in at some point, whether it be due to injury or just offensive incompetence.
Posted by EastTexasTiger
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:01 pm to
Both losses so far and the ones to come, are 100% on the coaching staff. They were not prepared at all. Also, the intensity of the atm players was off the chart-a reflection of their head coach. We had no fire and no intensity. Again all coaching.
Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:03 pm to
This is the BK MO. He talks about mentality and want and blocking out the noise, but the buck stops there.

It's why he looks so dumbfounded every time he gets smacked in the face.

UT 2022
UGA 2022
FSU 2022/2023
TAMU 2022/2024

No ability to adjust in-game.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
36275 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:04 pm to
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The LSU players admitted they weren't prepared for that style of play and and the staff showed zero ability to adjust to it in the second half.


Don’t confuse not making adjustments with that players not executing said adjustments, or just being athletically outclassed.

The staff did adjust. They stopped the aggressive pressure and blitzing and tried spying with Weeks and then Safeties. Reed’s speed and acceleration was going to be a problem for any of our currently available heavy rotation defensive players. Without Perkins, no one could match that.

Hopefully some time is spent during the bye week coming up with a plan B if we struggle vs Milroe, or if Lagway or OU’s freshman QB cause problems with speed. Maybe some of our freshman LBs or Jackson or Toviano at Star are a better athletic match to spy some of these guys if Weeks is too slow.
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
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They were not prepared at all. Also, the intensity of the atm players was off the chart-a reflection of their head coach. We had no fire and no intensity. Again all coaching.


This isn't true at all.

They were very prepared. So prepared that we took the starter out of the game because the defense shut down the A&M offense. And the intensity in the first half was obviously in LSU's favor.

Once the momentum shifted and the fans got into it, yeah things shifted and snowballed from there, but to say the team wasn't prepared and lacked intensity is patently false.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 1:07 pm
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
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No ability to adjust in-game.


Yet we have plenty of come back wins in his less than 3 seasons here. We've been much better in the 2nd half in almost every game of Kelly's tenure here minus a few games.
Posted by StadiumDormNEZ72
Member since Jun 2023
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:05 pm to
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People who make judgements based off a 2 second clip


Like “I hate the NFL because they keep showing me Taylor Swift”?
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
10923 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:07 pm to
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The quy is as much of a passer as a RB is passer because he threw a halfback pass - his passing is horrible.




43/79 (54.4%) 655 yards ; 6 TD ; 0 Int
Reed's passing stats going into the game Saturday night.

45/85 (52.9%) 570 yds ; 3 TD ; 2 int
Nussmeier's passing stats over his previous similar number of pass attempts going into Saturday night.






Posted by LSUShock
Kansas
Member since Jun 2014
5667 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:07 pm to
Come back wins is playing with fire. Ask Les Miles.

The hot hand only lasts for so long.
Posted by Salmon
I helped draft the email
Member since Feb 2008
86227 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:08 pm to
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No ability to adjust in-game.


What?

how many games has LSU had to come back and win during BK's tenure?

LSU having slow starts and having to adjust in-game is actually a very valid criticism of BK and his preparation.
Posted by thunderbird1100
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:10 pm to
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which is obviously false since we have seen that style of play multiple times this year



The player specifically said we did not prepare for Reed to come in the game which means they didnt practice against the QB run threat all week basically.

This is how game prep goes. Because we practiced it for Week 3 against USCe and Week 7 against OM doesnt necessarily prepare you for a Week 9 game against A&M's backup QB when we didnt think he would play at all.

It's definitely a big adjustment mid-game like that when you werent initially prepared for something like that all week long.
This post was edited on 10/28/24 at 1:12 pm
Posted by chadr07
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Member since Jan 2015
14450 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:11 pm to
Hence why Kelly cant ever win the big games hardly
Posted by Septiger
Member since Nov 2020
3508 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:11 pm to
I think you are asking for too much , preparing for two qbs . I mean what do you expend for 10 million a year?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:16 pm to
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do you not think that the short fields that the defense kept getting and no rest could have played a large part in Reed's success?


Had a 60 and 75 yard TD drive in only 4 and 6 plays

So, no. It didn’t matter. Field could have been 150 yards long and they were going to score in roughly 10 plays
Posted by Salmon
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Member since Feb 2008
86227 posts
Posted on 10/28/24 at 1:16 pm to
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The player specifically said we did not prepare for Reed to come in the game which means they didnt practice against the QB run threat all week basically.


I'm aware. They didn't prepare for Reed specifically.

But they have been prepared for similar offenses prior to this week. Its not like they haven't been prepared for it.

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