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Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:03 am to Ingeniero
I mean.....yeah....everybody knew this, except of course apparently, our good old Gov. Or else he did know and lied on Macaffee. Either way, pretty pathetic.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:05 am to tiger94gop
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LSU's Athletic Department is part of LSU; correct? So, BK is a State Employee correct? As I said LSU since it is the "State" University, it gets its funding from the "State". As I said if donations dried up the State would be liable for his buyout. LSU's money, which is technically the States money, would be paid towards the buyout. We know that won't happen, but as I said; once the money is in LSU's coffers it is the States money.
The LSU athletic department is a self-sufficient business that is “owned” by the state via LSU and the BOS.
If you have to start defining ticket revenue, conference distributions, advertising revenue, etc. as “state funds” to justify Landry’s comments, then we’ve jumped the shark.
If the LSU athletic department had to defund revenue sharing by $8m/year to pay a buyout, would you say they “spent taxpayer money”? Because from where I stand that sounds like a pretty silly argument.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:11 am to Ingeniero
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In other words, Landry is talking out of his arse and the board knows it.
Youre an idiot and always have been
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LSU Tigers, Les Miles reach $1.5 million buyout agreement
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Ed Orgeron, LSU Buyout: $16.9 million
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Napier is set to receive a buyout of over $21 million
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Gus Malzahn, Auburn. Buyout: $21.4 million
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Tom Herman, Texas.Buyout: $15.4 million
Kellys buyout is $53.8M. We're in a whole new startosphere here. And LSU is legally on the hook for it, because you cant force a private citizen to step up when sued for it. And you will be sued for it
Rich people are rich, because they dont throw that kind of money around, every 4 years
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:13 am to TackySweater
If only everyone was as brilliant as Tacky Sweater aka the sitting governor.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:14 am to RobbBobb
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Kellys buyout is $53.8M. We're in a whole new startosphere here. And LSU is legally on the hook for it, because you cant force a private citizen to step up when sued for it. And you will be sued for it
Rich people are rich, because they dont throw that kind of money around, every 4 years
Why did you leave off James Franklin?
Also, when is the Pennsylvania governor’s presser to complain about tax payers footing the bill for that buyout, or did I miss it?
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:17 am to lostinbr
Whose being silly when you agreed with my argument. As I said they are both making disingenuous statements which you don't seem to understand.
With your own quote, Landry is right, the "State" meaning LSU is liable for the buyout. I guess you are hung up on me using the word donations.
Carmouche is right as well when he says the State isn't paying the buyout. However, if BK gets any money from an LSU account, he is wrong.
It is a 1,000 ft view of it, but as I said they are both making statements that aren't explaining the whole situation, regardless of the origins of the funds.
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The LSU athletic department is a self-sufficient business that is “owned” by the state via LSU and the BOS.
With your own quote, Landry is right, the "State" meaning LSU is liable for the buyout. I guess you are hung up on me using the word donations.
Carmouche is right as well when he says the State isn't paying the buyout. However, if BK gets any money from an LSU account, he is wrong.
It is a 1,000 ft view of it, but as I said they are both making statements that aren't explaining the whole situation, regardless of the origins of the funds.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:19 am to tiger94gop
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With your own quote, Landry is right, the "State" meaning LSU is liable for the buyout. I guess you are hung up on me using the word donations.
Carmouche is right as well when he says the State isn't paying the buyout. However, if BK gets any money from an LSU account, he is wrong.
It is a 1,000 ft view of it, but as I said they are both making statements that aren't explaining the whole situation, regardless of the origins of the funds.
Including donated funds to a privately run organization (TAF) as state funds is beyond disingenuous, it’s downright dumb.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:19 am to Ingeniero
If that’s the case, Landry is very in what he said. He should’ve done some research before opening his mouth about the tax payer’s money being used to pay for LSU coaches.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:21 am to RobbBobb
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Kellys buyout is $53.8M. We're in a whole new startosphere here. And LSU is legally on the hook for it, because you cant force a private citizen to step up when sued for it. And you will be sued for it
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:22 am to RobbBobb
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And LSU is legally on the hook for it, because you cant force a private citizen to step up when sued for it. And you will be sued for it
Let's look at another scenario to see if this logic holds up. If the entire world was wiped out except me and your wife, we'd have to repopulate. So through some incredibly unlikely chain of events, I have permission to frick your wife. Do you go around telling people "TECHNICALLY Ingeniero can frick my wife!"
Same situation for a coach's contract. Because LSU is a public university in Louisiana, the taxpayer is always theoretically on the hook if literally every other mechanism of payment fails. Same way if everyone else in the world dies, I'm spraying your wife's guts.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:26 am to RB10
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Why did you leave off James Franklin?
I was listing only fired SEC coaches. But since you asked, their AD isnt stupid enough to write dumb arse guaranteed contracts
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As a result, Penn State would not be liable for the entire buyout if Franklin obtains another job in coaching, broadcasting or a related field. That's much different than the famous buyout of about $76 million that Texas A&M is paying former head coach Jimbo Fisher after firing him in 2023.
And Jimbo didnt get a new contract, A&M just extended Woodwards POS contract with Jimbo
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The terms of the extension include an annual salary of $9,000,000 starting on January 1, 2022 and will increase to $9,150,000 on January 1, 2023. In each of the following years, the base salary increases by $100,000 on January 1. All other terms relative to performance incentives and other elements remain the same.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:29 am to Ingeniero
quote:not like a lawyer to speak in absolutes. Is Jesus returning soon, too?
ut the state and the taxpayer has never paid for a coach and never will...so...
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:30 am to RobbBobb
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I was listing only fired SEC coaches. But since you asked, their AD isnt stupid enough to write dumb arse guaranteed contracts
You do understand that Kelly has the SAME EXACT language in his contract, correct?
So did Orgeron. So did Miles.
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And Jimbo didnt get a new contract, A&M just extended Woodwards POS contract with Jimbo
We aren’t talking about Jimbo.
I’m also still waiting for the link to the Pennsylvania governor’s press conference
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:32 am
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:30 am to dstone12
The contract between a coach and a university is, and always will be, between the coach and the university.
That makes the university ultimately responsible
If it is a state university, that makes the taxpayers ultimately responsible
This is every coaching contract, and every university employee contract, and is not alterable unless you want to have a major booster hire the Coach directly as a personal employee. It is not alterable because the coach WORKS FOR THE UNIVERSITY.
However, university leaders will go out into the community and solicit donations to cover the cost of the Coach or the cost of the buyout.
If donors are unwilling to donate said funds, the coach will simply not be hired or fired. And to be honest, if donors are not willing to pony up the money for the hire buyout, maybe there is not enough consensus that the coach should be hired/fired in any event.
So, therefore, the taxpayer is “technically” responsible ( just like they are responsible for every other employee of any state university), but there is not a reasonable scenario where they would ever actually have to come up with the money.
That makes the university ultimately responsible
If it is a state university, that makes the taxpayers ultimately responsible
This is every coaching contract, and every university employee contract, and is not alterable unless you want to have a major booster hire the Coach directly as a personal employee. It is not alterable because the coach WORKS FOR THE UNIVERSITY.
However, university leaders will go out into the community and solicit donations to cover the cost of the Coach or the cost of the buyout.
If donors are unwilling to donate said funds, the coach will simply not be hired or fired. And to be honest, if donors are not willing to pony up the money for the hire buyout, maybe there is not enough consensus that the coach should be hired/fired in any event.
So, therefore, the taxpayer is “technically” responsible ( just like they are responsible for every other employee of any state university), but there is not a reasonable scenario where they would ever actually have to come up with the money.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:30 am to Ingeniero
Then I guess you can name the buyout thats been agreed to, and who is stepping up to pay it. Because hours long meetings in the governors didnt come up with anything. And in todays presser, they said they are still working on buyouts for Woody and BK
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:31 am to RobbBobb
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Then I guess you can name the buyout thats been agreed to, and who is stepping up to pay it. Because hours long meetings in the governors didnt come up with anything. And in todays presser, they said they are still working on buyouts for Woody and BK
Jesus Christ man.
Don’t
Be
fricking
Dumb
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am to yallallcrazy
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So, therefore, the taxpayer is “technically” responsible ( just like they are responsible for every other employee of any state university), but there is not a reasonable scenario where they would ever actually have to come up with the money.
Agree.
I am just saying that the taxpayer is on the contract. Therefore the gov can speak about it. That’s all.
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:33 am to RB10
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Penn State Athletics speaks on firing of James Franklin, but avoids question about $50M buyout
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:35 am to RobbBobb
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Penn State Athletics speaks on firing of James Franklin, but avoids question about $50M buyout
Where was the governor? Why was he not firing up the masses about paying $50 million dollars of taxpayer money to Franklin?
Take it even further. Why is LA’s governor the only one going onto national sports talk shows to discuss buyouts?
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 11:38 am
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