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re: John Carmouche: "the taxpayer has never paid for a coach and never will"

Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:15 am to
Posted by Sun God
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:15 am to
Hmm it’s almost like I called this
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51036 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:17 am to
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Because the fact that there is a safety valve of the taxpayer possibly being on the hook and making it all go away was the reason these contracts got out of hand.




Don’t be dumb. The contract aren’t growing because of taxpayers. They’re growing because the sport and all of its major players are making money hand over fist due to TV contracts.

You really need to stop talking at this point.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:19 am to
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Don’t be dumb. The contract aren’t growing because of taxpayers. They’re growing because the sport and all of its major players are making money hand over fist due to TV contracts. You really need to stop talking at this point.



The sport and major players are making money because if it is all underwritten by the taxpayer, then the business is free to make decisions, costly or not.

And frick you. I will talk if I want to.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51036 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:20 am to
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The sport and major players are making money because if it is all underwritten by the taxpayer, then the business is free to make decisions, costly or not.


Man you’re dumb.

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And frick you. I will talk if I want to.


See above.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:20 am to
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Which is exactly what some of us have been saying, while emotional teenage girls bleed all over themselves about him running his mouth


Landry has melted more than anyone on this site. He's been running in front of every camera and microphone he can to spew bullshite that everyone knows is false. It amazes me that there are still LSU fans defending him.
Posted by TackySweater
Member since Dec 2020
24650 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:24 am to
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Landry has melted more than anyone on this site

Who gives a frick what he’s doing? IT DOESNT MATTER.

The people bleeding all over the board about what he is saying are low IQ and acting like emotional teenage girls.
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It amazes me that there are still LSU fans defending him.

I’m not. But continue melting about some meaningless shite lol
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
3788 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:30 am to
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The sport and major players are making money because if it is all underwritten by the taxpayer, then the business is free to make decisions, costly or not.

Wow, you don't seem to understand anything.

First of all, LSU Athletics is a GOVERNMENT owned enterprise. If someone wants to sign a contract with LSU, they are signing a contract with the Louisiana state government as the employer. You can't remove the taxpayer when the government owns the business.

Second of all, this has always been the case for public university athletics, the money didn't start getting crazy until private athletic associations got involved - specifically with the Nick Saban contract at LSU in 2000. Not the other way around as you seem to imply.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:32 am to
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First of all, LSU Athletics is a GOVERNMENT owned enterprise. If someone wants to sign a contract with LSU, they are signing a contract with the Louisiana state government as the employer. You can't remove the taxpayer when the government owns the business.



And this is why I say, if it’s tied to the government of Louisiana, then the governor is allowed to speak about it.

Posted by savecf101
Member since Dec 2024
82 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:35 am to
If Landry is so concerned about tax payers footing the bill for football why not address the state $ support for ULL athletics? $50 million over the past three years! Same time period for LSU, zero.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31888 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:40 am to
The only one getting rich in Carmouche lawsuits is Carmouche.
Posted by notbilly
alter
Member since Sep 2015
6763 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:41 am to
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Who gives a frick what he’s doing? IT DOESNT MATTER.

The people bleeding all over the board about what he is saying are low IQ and acting like emotional teenage girls.


To any sane person, the governor melting on national media is more concerning than nameless people on a message board bitching about him.
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1132 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:42 am to
Yea He would know for sure!
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2487 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:44 am to
The taxpayer does pay the coach through required TAF fees to be a season ticket holder.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51036 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:45 am to
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The taxpayer does pay the coach through required TAF fees to be a season ticket holder.




Holy shite. Through degrees of separation tax payers pay for everything, everywhere.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 10:49 am
Posted by broadhead
Member since Oct 2014
2487 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:49 am to
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Holy shite


Can you buy LSU Football season tickets without TAF fees?
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51036 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:50 am to
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Can you buy LSU Football season tickets without TAF fees?


So I don’t have to pay TAF fees if I don’t want to? Got it.

How many taxpayers DON’T pay TAF fees? 99% of them?

So no, “the taxpayer” doesn’t pay for the coach through TAF. People who are taxpayers pay for the coach through TAF by choice. Quite a big difference there.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 10:53 am
Posted by lsuatty1311
Houma
Member since Oct 2007
73 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:54 am to
Both the Governor and Carmouche are correct. Their statements are not mutually exclusive. The State of Louisiana, through LSU, is a party to the contract is ultimately responsible for the obligations that arise when there is a breach or termination by LSU. However, the standard practice has been that in the negotiation and execution of these contracts, the private boosters would be expected to shoulder the burden. This was understood during the negotiation and execution of the contract. The BOS knew this, the President of LSU knew this and previous and current governor knew this.

Carmouche statement about the past is correct, but his statement about the future is only a prediction based on past history. There is nothing that legally requires any donor/booster to pay a buyout fee.
Posted by tiger94gop
GEISMAR
Member since Nov 2004
3126 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:58 am to
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If every bit of donor money dried up, the LSU athletic department would have to cover it. Not the state. That’s the point.


LSU's Athletic Department is part of LSU; correct? So, BK is a State Employee correct? As I said LSU since it is the "State" University, it gets it's funding from the "State". As I said if donations dried up the State would be liable for his buyout. LSU's money, which is technically the States money, would be paid towards the buyout. We know that won't happen, but as I said; once the money is in LSU's coffers it is the States money.

TAF pays him as well, but w/o TAF who pays BK?

As I seaid, they are both saying things that aren't quite true.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12661 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:00 am to
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Carmouche statement about the past is correct, but his statement about the future is only a prediction based on past history. There is nothing that legally requires any donor/booster to pay a buyout fee.

That’s true, but it’s entirely within LSU’s control. LSU isn’t going to fire a coach without having the money lined up for the buyout. And the BOS has to approve that firing just like they have to approve any other large contract.

In other words - the risk of LSU firing a coach without having money lined up to pay the buyout is the same as the risk of the BOS approving literally any other large expense without having money lined up.
Posted by bengalmd
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2021
5113 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 11:01 am to
I love it when people can’t admit when they are dead wrong and refuse to acknowledge that they are making a fool of themselves by saying the governor is spot on with his ridiculous comments.
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