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re: John Carmouche: "the taxpayer has never paid for a coach and never will"

Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:41 am to
Posted by Hale Lipari
Member since Jul 2025
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Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:41 am to
Carmouche the total douche is 100% correct
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:42 am to
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You’re still apparently unable to grasp it.


I fully grasp it. The state is on the hook in the event of a doomsday scenario. However unlikely it is or how you want to describe it.

It’s not hard to understand. I don’t know what you guys are arguing.
Posted by dstone12
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Member since Jan 2007
38717 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:43 am to
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But why is our governor hand-wringing over the remote, doomsday possibility that LSU athletics can’t pay Kelly’s $8.9m/year buyout while the state spends over $70 million per year of actual taxpayer money to float the rest of the athletic departments at the state’s public universities?


This is too easy. Because it’s in the contract. Let’s just say that some Rich guy decided no I’m not paying for this stupid fricking buyout. Guess who’s on the payroll for it? The taxpayer. That’s why he wants it out of the contract.

The governor is allowed to talk about the buyout because the taxpayer is in the contract. Take the taxpayer off the Contract and the governor will not talk about it.

Guys this is too fricking easy. It’s in ink therefore even if it’s remote it’s a possibility. Take the taxpayer off the responsibility.

You won’t hear from the governor about it if you take the taxpayer off the co tract.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 9:47 am
Posted by LSUnatick
South of Lafourche
Member since Jul 2008
1622 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:46 am to
Folks need to realize that while the governor appoints the BOS their loyalty lies with LSU.

Look at the bios of the BOS. Most are self made alphas that accepted the job based on their love for LSU not appeasement of the governor.

So while they want the role they dont need the role and can walk at anytime and won't think twice about pushing back on his BS as needed.

Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:48 am to
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This is too easy. Because it’s in the contract. Let’s just say that some Rich guy decided no I’m not paying for this stupid fricking buyout. Guess who’s on the payroll for it? The taxpayer. That’s why he wants it out of the contract.


Then Kelly would still be the head coach.

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The governor is allowed to talk about the buyout because the taxpayer is in the contract. Take the tax fair off. The contract in the governor will not talk about it. Guys this is too fricking easy. It’s in ink therefore even if it’s remote, Take the taxpayer off the responsibility.


That would be dumb. No agent is going to let his a client sign without a foolproof way to get the guaranteed money.

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You won’t hear from the governor about it if you take the taxpayer off the co tract.


We shouldn’t have heard from the governor in the first place. That’s the entire point.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:49 am to
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I fully grasp it. The state is on the hook in the event of a doomsday scenario. However unlikely it is or how you want to describe it.


At which point a coach’s buyout would be the least of the taxpayers concerns.

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It’s not hard to understand. I don’t know what you guys are arguing.


So you do not, in fact, fully grasp it.
Posted by BigBinBR
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2023
9331 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:49 am to
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BK was the highest paid employee of the State.


Wrong. He only made $400k from the state. William Tate made $725k. Woodward made $525k. There are others that also exceed the $400k mostly in the athletic department or vice president of LSU.

Other notable people also making the max $400k from the state: Jay Johnson, Kim Mulkey, Matt McMahon, Frank Wilson, Joe Sloan, Brad Davis, Nate Yetske


It’s all public record. So people spouting off that the football coach is the highest paid state employee only way that because of overall contracts. But the money doesn’t come from the state.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 9:52 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:52 am to
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The governor is allowed to talk about the buyout because the taxpayer is in the contract. Take the tax fair off. The contract in the governor will not talk about it. Guys this is too fricking easy. It’s in ink therefore even if it’s remote, Take the taxpayer off the responsibility.


That’s what they’re pissed about. We all know LSU is unlikely to default on anything. The governor was well within his purview commenting on it and they can’t stand it.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38717 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:53 am to
You would not have heard from the governor if we didn’t draw up some stupid contracts.

Going forward, there will be clean contracts that are incentive-heavy on the back end.


Coaches that want the “feet on desk after contract is signed” mantra from Bryan Kelly need not apply. The trash takes itself out sometimes when you have a good contract.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:54 am to
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So you do not, in fact, fully grasp it.


Again…what are you arguing?

Landry’s comments?
The contract language?
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
12661 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 9:59 am to
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This is too easy. Because it’s in the contract. Let’s just say that some Rich guy decided no I’m not paying for this stupid fricking buyout. Guess who’s on the payroll for it? The taxpayer. That’s why he wants it out of the contract.

:sigh:

Again, the taxpayer is only on the hook if the donors refuse to pay and the athletic department becomes insolvent.
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Guys this is too fricking easy. It’s in ink therefore even if it’s remote it’s a possibility. Take the taxpayer off the responsibility.

How do you propose taking the taxpayer out of the contract when the coach is employed by LSU?

Again.. you can sever the athletic department from the university. That’s one way. How else would you do it?
Posted by bstaceyau19
New Orleans
Member since Jun 2022
1059 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:00 am to
I think we are all missing the point.

Giving a 10-year $95 million contract to a guy who was checked out and going thru the motions from day one only to get worse is bad business. It doesn't matter who is paying; it's money better spent by LSU football elsewhere in the program, like NIL.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:01 am to
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You would not have heard from the governor if we didn’t draw up some stupid contracts.


Why are you acting like LSU is the only school with this verbiage?

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Going forward, there will be clean contracts that are incentive-heavy on the back end.


No, we won’t.

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Coaches that want the “feet on desk after contract is signed” mantra from Bryan Kelly need not apply. The trash takes itself out sometimes when you have a good contract.




This is beyond dumb.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:03 am to
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Again…what are you arguing?


Again, I’ve made it very clear what is being argued. You cannot follow apparently.
Posted by Motorboat
At the camp
Member since Oct 2007
23935 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:06 am to
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Folks need to realize that while the governor appoints the BOS their loyalty lies with LSU.


You are most naive.
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
39756 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:08 am to
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You cannot follow apparently.


I get it. You’re pissed about Landry.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38717 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:08 am to
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How do you propose taking the taxpayer out of the contract when the coach is employed by LSU? Again.. you can sever the athletic department from the university. That’s one way. How else would you do it?



The you will HAVE to get used to hearing the governor talk about it.

Grandstanding or not, taxpayer on contract? Then you Hear from gov. It’s that easy.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:09 am to
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The you will HAVE to get used to hearing the governor talk about it.

Grandstanding or not, taxpayer on contract? Then you Hear from gov. It’s that easy.


Every state school across the country has been on the contract for decades. Why are we just now hearing about it?

LSU isn’t being drug through the mud by the media because the tax payers are written into the contract. They’re being drug through the mud because Landry is the only politician stupid enough to use it as a scare tactic.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 10:13 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
51035 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:11 am to
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I get it. You’re pissed about Landry.


Slow clap.

He has no business telling a privately funded entity how they can or cannot spend their money. If he wants input, then the state needs to stop TAKING money from the LSU athletic department and start GIVING it money.

Until then, he needs to keep his mouth shut.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
38717 posts
Posted on 10/31/25 at 10:15 am to
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Why are we just now hearing about it?


Because the fact that there is a safety valve of the taxpayer possibly being on the hook and making it all go away was the reason these contracts got out of hand.

Thats why they kept upping it. The arms race has to come to an end or we become this woman.









She knew there would be a fall back…..you and me.
This post was edited on 10/31/25 at 10:16 am
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