re: Joel Klatt at it Again: "Auburn has Proven So Much More Than LSU This Season"

Joel Klatt is the new Danny Kanell. He gets on the airwaves and talks down the SEC whenever he can. He desperately wants AU to win because it's the only way his PAC12 Washington team can have a chance at the playoffs later in the season.

Joel Klitt is an anti SEC, Big12//Pac 12 homer. He trotted his homeristic act onto Foxs own Colin Cowturd show last year. Even Cowturd came to the defense of the SEC in talking with this clown Klitt.

Then after a few skirmishes he basically told Joel Klitt to take a time out and sit in the corner. Feeling sypatthetic for Cowturd was a first, much like after Al Davis had to deal with Lame kitten.

Joel Klitts only MO is to jump on the Auburn bandwagon and stay on it as long possible so he can pitch Washington to the playoff committee and be able to keep pontificating that the Pac 12's best is as good as the SEC

He is a biased douche bag extraordinaire

Same shite he said against Miami. He didn’t watch the game obviously. Those turnover were all LSU. Delpit with the hit that made the ball sail. The slight deflection by Ed on the other pick. Our D is better than UW. Obviously offense is a concern because UW does have a good offense and they struggled. However it was in the red zone. They moved the ball between the 20’s. If we do that we have a kicker that should make the kicks. So we just keep em out of the endzone. ST’s and red zone D is the key.

Auburn is a good team and they beat a good team in Washington, but let's not pretend that the Huskies' defense is the equal of the LSU defense.

On its 10 drives against Washington, Auburn got in the red zone 5 times, and got 2 TDs, 2 FGs, plus one missed FG. It also made 1 long range FG and missed another long range FG.

If the Washington defense could stop them short that many times, I think the LSU defense will do better.

In addition Washington made 2 turnovers (1 INT, 1 fumble.) The INT gave Auburn a short field FG. The fumble on the 3 yard kept Washington from scoring a TD or at least a FG.

Without their mistakes, Washington could have easily won that game.

Say what you will about LSU's offense, but the outcome was never in doubt against Miami or SELA.

And even if it's a close hard fought game that comes down to a field goal battle, I like LSU's chances.

We''l see what happens, after all that's why they play the games, but I think don't think Klatt has any special insight into this game's outcome.

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Vegas doesn’t throw a 10 point spread unless they feel the team is better

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That's not how gambling works. Vegas does spreads based on how they think the gamblers see the teams in an effort to get balanced action.

And he's wrong where???

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Vegas doesn’t spend hours researching football games. Their lines are set by betting trends. The more people that bet LSU - the more the line will favor LSU and vice versa. Vegas isn’t in the football business. They are in the money business.

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Vegas sets their lines in ways to maximize the amount of money that will be made by the sports books themselves. This includes spending enough time to properly analyze the matchups in order to do that..

To think the wise guys out in the desert are just throwing these lines out on a whim, in some ill-informed way is asenine.

These lines are absolutely made with understanding of the teams involved and making the correct assessment of them both to make the most accurate betting line possible. They are in the "money" business as you said, but that goes hand in hand with the "football" business. Lines are only changed based on trends once a large amount of money is bet on a certain side. If the line starts at -10 and a lot of money gets bet for the underdog to cover then the line will move up to cover that potential loss and hedge the bets...

The point is that the original line is one that is as accurate and real world as possible, and made by guys who spend not just a few, but a great many hours doing research to set the line in the first place...

Not sure where you get that Vegas sports books are just throwing together these lines as if they have no clue what they are looking at. They are in business for a reason and the amount of money taken in by these companies is substantial enough to operate at costs of millions and millions of dollars a week.

Also betting lines are maximized profit wise by limiting the amount of time the lines are even open to place a wager on by anyone in the general public. A cap on the amount anyone can actually bet at all is also commonly practiced on lines that seem like sure things. This is because they are so sure of the outcome from one side or the other that they make arrangements to minimize losses. This is money thing as much as a football thing. If they were just going with money then they wouldn't ever place the line at that number to begin with, but they do because it's the closest thing to what is actually going to happen in their very well informed opinions. Also, people wouldn't place bets with a sports book that is offering lines that are just not at all researched and accurate. It's basically a form of cheating the betting public and looks that way as well. To have transparency in gambling, especially in sports, the need for very well informed information from the house is an absolute must or the people who would actually place wagers would never bother to use that particular sports book. Why do you think just about every single major sports book are all setting lines that are within a point or less of each other. You just don't see one company set a line 3 points +/- another company. Which is what would be happening under your version of the sports betting world....

There are more than enough examples as to why the Vegas guys know what they are qtcbing and setting lines from in regards to knowledge of the game and the teams involved. All to make money using the most informed possible of ways.

Many examples of maximized profits using accurate projected score totals for both sides is evident across sports gambling.
For instance, most books wont start allowing bets on games between FBS and FCS teams until the morning of the game, this is because they know the likelihood of the cover by the favorite is very high in most cases. The total max bet is also drastically cut so the payouts are far lower...so does this all sound like something a very poorly informed set of people would do?

Vegas insiders have more actual knowledge of what teams will do against each other than just about anyone else. That is why they are literally doing what they are doing and why they are profitable in the first place.


It's literally as if you think they are out to cheat themselves or the public, because that's what setting lines that aren't absolutely as accurate and researched as possible would yield....

Have you ever even bothered to actually figure out what you're saying before saying it? That might help you nextime.

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Joel Klatt at it Again: "Auburn has Proven So Much More Than LSU This Season"

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His statement isn't entirely wrong. Our Offense hasn't had a great game yet.

Everybody still pumps Wash tho while Miami was seen as overrated. There is a chance that they were both overrated. preseason hype means nothing.

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a veteran green thumb

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I'm not sure what Burrow's gardening skills have to do with anything.

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Just saw this posted, apparently Joel Klatt is at it again, taking shots at LSU

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There's nothing unreasonable with what he said. The fact is, based on what we've seen so far, LSU is still a big question mark. There's no reason to get worked up over it because it will get immensely less foggy after Saturday.