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Joe Alleva gets a bad rap, when you think about it
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:42 am
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:42 am
Joe Alleva is the "Athletic Director," not the "Football Director." If, like me, you don't like the Orgeron hire, whether it is a good hire is up in the air. Alleva gets much maligned, but most of it is not warranted. I think most colleges would love to have Alleva as their A.D. His handling of Duke Lacrosse was atrocious, but we hired him anyway so it is too late to complain about that.
His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me).
The baseball team went to the NC last year.
Women's sports (with Title IX, a major part of his job) are doing well.
The gymnastics team is doing exceptionally well.
The only big rub is the Orgeron hire. I'm not an Orgeron fan. Alleva didn't handle the Miles issue well either, and he has admitted that he did not do so.
Now, if Orgeron fails this year, then Joe Alleva may deserve a bad rap.
His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me).
The baseball team went to the NC last year.
Women's sports (with Title IX, a major part of his job) are doing well.
The gymnastics team is doing exceptionally well.
The only big rub is the Orgeron hire. I'm not an Orgeron fan. Alleva didn't handle the Miles issue well either, and he has admitted that he did not do so.
Now, if Orgeron fails this year, then Joe Alleva may deserve a bad rap.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 9:46 am
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Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:44 am to chinhoyang
As much as I love the success of softball and gymnastics (really, they do make me incredibly proud). It's not what drives LSU, it's not what pays for LSU, and it's not what the majority of LSU fans care about.
ETA: He didn't hire Paul, Skip did. He also inherited basically a top 2-3 if not THE top college baseball program in the country with built in fan support as well as the resources to keep succeeding. He simply needs to not get in the way.
Also he was handed Will Wade by Eddie Nunez, again, he succeeded by not getting in the way. Joe succeeds the most when he does the least.
ETA: He didn't hire Paul, Skip did. He also inherited basically a top 2-3 if not THE top college baseball program in the country with built in fan support as well as the resources to keep succeeding. He simply needs to not get in the way.
Also he was handed Will Wade by Eddie Nunez, again, he succeeded by not getting in the way. Joe succeeds the most when he does the least.
This post was edited on 3/30/18 at 9:46 am
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:44 am to chinhoyang
Didn't he hire JJ too? It's his handling of the Miles/O fiasco that was so asinine.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:44 am to chinhoyang
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His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me).
frick you
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:44 am to chinhoyang
It’s not so much the Orgeron hire as the absolute joke of a “search” he conducted before hiring him.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:46 am to TheWalrus
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It’s not so much the Orgeron hire as the absolute joke of a “search” he conducted before hiring him.
Right.
If an AD picked names for a coach out of a hat and he wound up hiring that coach and he was good, does he deserve credit for it?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:46 am to chinhoyang
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His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me)
well, that's because you're a moron.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:47 am to TheWalrus
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It’s not so much the Orgeron hire as the absolute joke of a “search” he conducted before hiring him.
I agree. But, if Orgeron does well then his hire will be validated, regardless of the technique used to make it.
If Orgeron bombs, then he deserves criticism.
My fear is a bunch of 3 loss seasons - never enough to justify a firing, but never enough for the fans.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:50 am to chinhoyang
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My fear is a bunch of 3 loss seasons - never enough to justify a firing, but never enough for the fans
How is 3 losses not enough to justify a firing?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:50 am to chinhoyang
Hey why should i get a bad rap for being a bad husband? I do not work and I curse my wife and kids but I am a great cook!
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:52 am to jlovel7
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Joe succeeds the most when he does the least.
What's wrong with that? I wish more of our legislators were "do nothings." Sometimes, the best approach is to let others do their job.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:55 am to chinhoyang
quote:What about the 2 shitty hires before wade?
His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me).
quote:Didn’t hire that coach and damn near lost him to Texas over a fuching video coordinator.
The baseball team went to the NC last year.
quote:Women’s Basketball has taken a huge step back and who gives a shite .
Women's sports (with Title IX, a major part of his job) are doing well.
quote:Oh you mean the one sport that pays for the entire goddamn athletic department?
The only big rub is the Orgeron hire. I'm not an Orgeron fan. Alleva didn't handle the Miles issue well either, and he has admitted that he did not do so.
You can’t be this dumb, has to be a troll.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:57 am to Mo Jeaux
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Didn't he hire JJ too?
Yep.. and Trent Johnson.... Alleva is 1/3 on basketball coaches
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:57 am to chinhoyang
Track teams is worse
Women’s basketball is worse
Men’s basketball he made 2 shite hires and we’ve been shite most of the time he’s
Been here
Women’s basketball is worse
Football is worse
But hey golf softball and Gymnastics are better.
So there is that.
Women’s basketball is worse
Men’s basketball he made 2 shite hires and we’ve been shite most of the time he’s
Been here
Women’s basketball is worse
Football is worse
But hey golf softball and Gymnastics are better.
So there is that.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 9:57 am to chinhoyang
He couldn't have bungled the Miles firing / non-firing /finally firing more if he actually tried to bungle it. Then he followed that fiasco with the most inept coaching search ever.
Fire a guy because his offense wasn't good enough and hire a DLine coach. Brilliant. Oh wait. DLine coach promises his offensive genius pal will come spearhead the offense. Lets hire Coach O before checking to see if Kiffin is actually interested. Oh wait, he isn't. But O does have a mighty pretty binder.
shite show on the football side and football pays the bills. He deserves all the ridicule in the world. Hell, even if O somehow turns things around (he won't), it will still be the most embarrassing handling of firing a coach / hiring a coach in my lifetime.
Fire a guy because his offense wasn't good enough and hire a DLine coach. Brilliant. Oh wait. DLine coach promises his offensive genius pal will come spearhead the offense. Lets hire Coach O before checking to see if Kiffin is actually interested. Oh wait, he isn't. But O does have a mighty pretty binder.
shite show on the football side and football pays the bills. He deserves all the ridicule in the world. Hell, even if O somehow turns things around (he won't), it will still be the most embarrassing handling of firing a coach / hiring a coach in my lifetime.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:03 am to chinhoyang
Even interviewing orgeron for the head coaching position was rediculous much less hiring him. He’s the most unqualified candidate I can remember with a history of being the biggest disaster in ole miss history. Unreal he hired this clown
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 am to chinhoyang
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His basketball coach hire has received raves from everyone (except me).
So, basically you started a thread to complain about Alleva getting a bad rap, but you're complaining about the ONE thing he has actually done right?
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:04 am to chinhoyang
football is the big bread winner. HE FAILED!
nope. not too late.
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I think most colleges would love to have Alleva as their A.D
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His handling of Duke Lacrosse was atrocious, but we hired him anyway so it is too late to complain about that.
nope. not too late.
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:05 am to TigerMyth36
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shite show on the football side and football pays the bills. He deserves all the ridicule in the world.
BINGO
F ALLEVA
Posted on 3/30/18 at 10:11 am to chinhoyang
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Alleva gets much maligned, but most of it is not warranted.
Hahahahahaha
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