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re: Jeremy Hill had the best explanation about the fumble recovery that was not.

Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
Another good point.

The OOB Gump must have touched it for the reversal explanation to work.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 1:11 pm
Posted by PurpleExile
Member since Dec 2020
561 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:09 pm to
Jeremy's interpretation makes the most sense. Should have been ruled an LSU recovery and ball was dead when out of bounds guy touched it.

Problem I have, though, is that the refs didn't know what they had seen. So they called what they saw in real time -- a fumble and an LSU recovery.
But then some guys in friggen Birmingham decided, "Hey, look, the guy's feet are out of bounds. Let's get this overturned. We can't be having a fumble here."

I would like to know who in B'ham was on the review crew. Where do they live? What was their affiliation? How many years have they been Alabama season ticket holders?

It is a FACT that most people in the SEC office are either Alabama or Auburn fans. I can't believe the SEC office flies in officials from Florida or Tennessee or wherever to serve on the Saturday night review crew. So they use the local arses, who inherently view things with a bias.

Conspiracy theory? Maybe. But it makes more sense than that call Saturday night.
Posted by Quatre Pot
Member since Jan 2015
1678 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:10 pm to
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NO, replay booth has many camera angles the networks

Exactly where do you think replay magically gets all of these extra camera angles from???
Posted by Spelt it rong
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2012
10497 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:11 pm to
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LSU recovery

Yes
quote:

ball was dead when out of bounds guy touched it.


No. He was already down with possession. Play is dead.
Posted by redfish99
B.R.
Member since Aug 2007
17673 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:12 pm to
I agree the person out of bounds should have to reestablish in bounds to be eligible to affect play on the field. I can see that being changed.
Posted by goatmilker
Castle Anthrax
Member since Feb 2009
70611 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:13 pm to
Wanted to ask a ref if that play had continued, bobbled, keeps getting booted down the field for 20 yards, no possession and finally again a LSU player grabs the ball and it pinky touched by the same guy who fumbled it laying out of bounds is it really going back to bama?
Posted by armsdealer
Member since Feb 2016
11942 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:13 pm to
He only lost control when the illegal touching occurred. There was no logical reason to reward Bama for illegal touching.
Posted by Jojodaddy
Member since Dec 2015
411 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:13 pm to
It was complete bullshite, no other way to describe it. You can analyze every millisecond and every angle, but just watch it again live. They fumbled, we recovered fully in bounds. It was the right call on the field and the only reason it was overturned is because Bama and Saban have outsized influence. Patrick Peterson 2.0
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
43727 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
Agree, but if you call it the other way on the field, you don’t overturn there either.

That’s the issue I had. They didn’t have anything on video to overturn on.
This post was edited on 11/6/22 at 1:24 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
25102 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
There was no way to overturn the original call. That’s what pissed me off.
Posted by PortCityTiger82
Shreveport, LA
Member since Nov 2010
6640 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:14 pm to
Exactly. An ineligible player should not be able to affect a play to that extent. It should be something like LSU ball with a ten yard penalty tacked on for an ineligible player interfering. I think it’s stupid that a player who in ineligible for being out of bounds to just be able to reach in and touch the ball and they retain possession
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:18 pm to
The problem is, the possession part is subjective. All you homers can say he had possession cause there is a photo of his hands on the ball, but it was slapped out immediately.

If a wr catches a pass, and it gets knocked out before the two steps or whatever, it’s incomplete. All I know is the guy in the booth knew immediately, before the announcers even knew it would be reviewed.
Posted by Delacroix22
Member since Aug 2013
4398 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:18 pm to
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No control


So then how do you define control?

Possessing the ball for 0.01 seconds? 0.1 seconds? 0.5 seconds? 1 second?

It’s a semantic argument
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:20 pm to
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What if the out of bounds player recovered the fumble? He is out of bounds so how can he get possession? A receiver cannot catch a ball with one foot in and one foot out.


Him recovering would be out of bounds, his team had possession so down where he recovered
Posted by GeauxAggie972
Poterbin Residence
Member since Aug 2009
29533 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:20 pm to
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If Brooks wouldn’t have dropped it after grabbing it, I don’t think the call is reversed.

The only reason Brooks dropped it was because the guy out of bounds hit it loose. Thus, the moment a finger from the Alabama guy touches it, that play is dead so you can't factor in the loss of control
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:21 pm to
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But then some guys in friggen Birmingham decided,


The former ref who is part of the announce crew said it would be overturned before anyone else on the planet knew there would be a review, or that the Bama guy was out of bounds. He called it before anyone watching or on the field knew there was an issue.
Posted by RealityTiger
Geismar, LA
Member since Jan 2010
20498 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:21 pm to
I just keep coming back to the point that Brooks had the ball in his possession AND was the first to touch it with both hands on the ball and down.


The stupid rule is a moot point because it was already recovered and down before it was even touched by Latu.

I don't get what some people are looking at here when they want to argue it. I think if you want to argue about it, then you just want to argue because you're not using your eyes and brain.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
21383 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:22 pm to
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have yet to see the other angle of that pass that would show if he actually caught the pass.


Yeah I’d like to see it. Ball was in a different spot after he rolled. Probably a catch but I’d like to see it.
Posted by cattus
Member since Jan 2009
14549 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:22 pm to
If that actually is a rule then it needs to change. Some tried to use this on the PP interception when he firmly had the ball with 2 hand and feet in. Out of bounds isn't some electric magic field that our bodies conduct. He lost possession period and an opponent was laying on the ground with 2 hands on it.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
8251 posts
Posted on 11/6/22 at 1:24 pm to
Possession in Alabama means your trailer has been tied down. Everybody knows that.
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